Is the English Labour Party Finished?



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The Con/Lib coalition have eroded the centralism of New Labour

Often wonder what that means exactly.
I think it means that the current political regime in the U.K may arouse a more politically active left of center movement, as opposed to the centrist mentality of New Labour. The Con/Lib coalition have eroded the centralism of New Labour and there return to their roots would envisage a more socialist dimension to their manifestos, by engaging in this they would prevent further erosion of their political base and could provide a credible alternative in the eyes of the British citizenry.
 

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No, there has to be an opposition. The Tories have neutralised and probably destroyed the Lib Dems by making them their 'centre' vanguard. Labour were ruined in southern and rural areas where they traditionally didn't do well pre-Blair, but they held on to their urban strongholds. The Tories on the other hand will hope to assault the remaining Lib Dem 'holds' in the West Country in particular. It will not be a 3-way fight next time, no more than it was this time, in reality.
 

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I would be more worried about the LibDems than Labour.

Labour can go away, lick their wounds and regroup. Their base may be diminished but it is relatively strong.

The LibDems will not be able to bring in proper PR and will be seen increasingly as opportunistic. They will enable all sorts of unpopular tax changes and cuts and in reality will have very little to show for it.

The memory of the electorate is short and few have the slightest idea about the current economic mess. They don't do gratitude when it comes to higher tax.

So I think once the tinsel tarnishes and it is politics as usual you will see the popularity of the government fall and in particular that of the LibDems. They will certainly lose votes to the left.

First test will be next May's council elections, watch them lose seats!
 

The Field Marshal

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The Corbyn thing is certainly a death knell.
 

Telstar 62

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Here we go again… another Labour councillor is in trouble for posting an anti-Semitic meme on Facebook.

Chesterfield councillor Andy Slack, who you’ll be shocked to learn is a big
Corbynista, Momentum supporter and Palestine activist, shared a graphic claiming “Israel was created by the Rothschilds, not God”. The image was produced by an extreme Jew-obsessed American website.

The cartoon of a hooked-nosed Jew with blood around his mouth will be of particular interest to the Labour compliance unit…
 

midlander12

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Here we go again… another Labour councillor is in trouble for posting an anti-Semitic meme on Facebook.

Chesterfield councillor Andy Slack, who you’ll be shocked to learn is a big
Corbynista, Momentum supporter and Palestine activist, shared a graphic claiming “Israel was created by the Rothschilds, not God”. The image was produced by an extreme Jew-obsessed American website.

The cartoon of a hooked-nosed Jew with blood around his mouth will be of particular interest to the Labour compliance unit…
'Slack' indeed!
 

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Here we go again… another Labour councillor is in trouble for posting an anti-Semitic meme on Facebook.

Chesterfield councillor Andy Slack, who you’ll be shocked to learn is a big
Corbynista, Momentum supporter and Palestine activist, shared a graphic claiming “Israel was created by the Rothschilds, not God”. The image was produced by an extreme Jew-obsessed American website.

The cartoon of a hooked-nosed Jew with blood around his mouth will be of particular interest to the Labour compliance unit…
Agreed, the post he shared is revolting and clearly anti-semitic.
He has been suspended and he has apologised. He claimed he didn't read it properly and promptly deleted it when he realised how disgusting it was.
I don't know if this is evidence of widespread anti-semitism in the Labour Party, it's just one bloke being stupid.
Guido seems to spend his entire existence trawling through the twitter, facebook feeds of Labour members. Sometimes he goes back years and years, to when they were schoolgirls, or college kids.
He needs to lighten up, I preferred him when he got drunk and and drove his car into trees.
 

midlander12

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No, there has to be an opposition. The Tories have neutralised and probably destroyed the Lib Dems by making them their 'centre' vanguard. Labour were ruined in southern and rural areas where they traditionally didn't do well pre-Blair, but they held on to their urban strongholds. The Tories on the other hand will hope to assault the remaining Lib Dem 'holds' in the West Country in particular. It will not be a 3-way fight next time, no more than it was this time, in reality.
I was amused to find this six-year-old post of mine on this old thread. I have to say I am no longer so sure that Labour will continue to exist as the main opposition in England. Support for uncontrolled immigration and an uncritical attitude towards the EU is destroying the left across Europe - the French PS will disappear next year, Italy's Renzi party is in deep trouble, and the German SPD and Spain's PSOE are in long-term decline. An assortment of the FN, Five Star, Northern League, and maybe (though currently stalled) Podemos will take their place

What will replace Labour is not so clear - UKIP are not exactly making much hay out of others' woes, and while the Lib Dems are making inroads again at council level, it is hard to imagine them as a mass centre-left opposition. Probably a mishmash of the three, ensuring the Tories remain in the driving seat for another lengthy period.
 

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There is no such thing as the English Labour Party. The Labour Party allows members to join from Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and England to join. Likewise there is no such party as the Irish Labour Party, it is also called The Labour Party.
 

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There is no such thing as the English Labour Party. The Labour Party allows members to join from Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and England to join. Likewise there is no such party as the Irish Labour Party, it is also called The Labour Party.
to me it is the lieabout/stickie/disso party, i wonder they are still so well repesented in the dail
 

Telstar 62

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Home Affairs Committee report on UK Antisemitism.

Section dealing with the Labour Party is surprisingly frank & quite damning.

 


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