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Is there anything we can build, that Asia cannot?


Oblivion.

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According to the champions of the "knowledge economy", Western nations were going focus on creating premium, high-end goods and services, whilst the Good Little Asians focused on selling us cheap plastic toys and €5 toasters.

The threat posed to Western manufacturing and technological superiority was not a concern, because the Good Little Asians had no interest in building anything complicated. Anyway, aside from the Japanese, Asian industries were decades behind and lacked the "culture of innovation" that has ensured Western global hegemony for the last 500 years. The Asians would sell us slippers. We'd sell them iPads.

Unfortunately, it appears the Chinese didn't get the memo.

China's Lenovo overtakes HP as biggest PC maker

And nobody told the South Koreans.

Hyundai Motors overtakes Ford in U.S. retail sales

It seems the Good Little Asians are now competing with Western manufacturing at every level of the value chain. But surely this is just a temporary blip? It's not as if companies like Airbus and Boeing could ever be bankrupted by Chinese competition.

Question: Is there anything we (Westerners) can build, that the Far East cannot either a) build already, or b) rival within 10 years?
 
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Analyzer

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I reckon the Irish institutional state can beat them in building quangos !!!
 

PeacefulViking

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According to the champions of the "knowledge economy", Western nations were going focus on creating premium, high-end goods and services, whilst the Good Little Asians focused on selling us cheap plastic toys and €5 toasters.

The threat posed to Western manufacturing and technological superiority was not a concern, because the Good Little Asians had no interest in building anything complicated. Anyway, aside from the Japanese, Asian industries were decades behind and lacked the "culture of innovation" that has ensured Western global hegemony for the last 500 years. The Asians would sell us slippers. We'd sell them iPads.

Unfortunately, it appears the Chinese didn't get the memo.

China's Lenovo overtakes HP as biggest PC maker

And nobody told the South Koreans.

Hyundai Motor overtakes Ford in U.S. retail sales

It seems the Good Little Asians are now competing with Western manufacturing at every level of the value chain. But surely this is just a temporary blip? It's not as if companies like Airbus and Boeing could ever be bankrupted by Chinese competition.

Question: Is there anything we (Westerners) can build, that the Far East cannot either a) build already, or b) rival within 10 years?
Why does not matter? Surely you do not think the world economy is some sort of competition?
 

EUrJokingMeRight

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According to the champions of the "knowledge economy", Western nations were going focus on creating premium, high-end goods and services, whilst the Good Little Asians focused on selling us cheap plastic toys and €5 toasters.

The threat posed to Western manufacturing and technological superiority was not a concern, because the Good Little Asians had no interest in building anything complicated. Anyway, aside from the Japanese, Asian industries were decades behind and lacked the "culture of innovation" that has ensured Western global hegemony for the last 500 years. The Asians would sell us slippers. We'd sell them iPads.

Unfortunately, it appears the Chinese didn't get the memo.

China's Lenovo overtakes HP as biggest PC maker

And nobody told the South Koreans.

Hyundai Motor overtakes Ford in U.S. retail sales

It seems the Good Little Asians are now competing with Western manufacturing at every level of the value chain. But surely this is just a temporary blip? It's not as if companies like Airbus and Boeing could ever be bankrupted by Chinese competition.

Question: Is there anything we (Westerners) can build, that the Far East cannot either a) build already, or b) rival within 10 years?
No.
 

seanmacc

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A 27 km underground Particle Accelerator/ Hadron Collider. Would you trust China to build it?
 

bm42

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We can make things that are costly to ship, things that have short shelf lives, things that have high tariffs, things that are highly regulated in their design/manufacture/application.
 

Telemachus

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Well, suicidal sociopolitical-systems that will result in their own self-destruction for one.
 

Houyhnhnm

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A 27 km underground Particle Accelerator/ Hadron Collider. Would you trust China to build it?
I would.

I'm sure they're more than capable of it.

What makes you think they wouldn't be able to build one?
 

ruserious

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Well, we're always first to know when it rains. I'm sure we can get some competitive advantage out of that.
 

Mackers

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An amalgamation of countries that doesn't know it's arse from it's elbow.
 
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Mr. Bumble

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Analyzer

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Tribunals that do not put anybody in jail.
 

firefly123

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Asian people have straight pubic hair? Your breadth of knowledge is an inspiration to us all.
I'm a man of the world Mr B. plus I have a horrible knack of remembering useless info whilst forgetting really important stuff. It's my curse and my gift ;)
 

DeGaulle 2.0

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What is happening in my opinion is that the large areas of the world (China and and large parts of South America in particular) are joining the first world. This will take quite a long time but it will mean that the world's resources are more equally distributed. It inevitably means a long relative decline for Europe and North America.

Already we are seeing a new "scramble for Africa" and the beginnings of a "scramble for Mars".
 

seanmacc

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I would.

I'm sure they're more than capable of it.

What makes you think they wouldn't be able to build one?
China's record of massive industrial accidents is not exactly good. Also when the excrement hits the fan they have a tendency of saying everything is fine and closing that bamboo curtain.
 

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