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Is Turkey now about to blow? Serious disturbances in Taksim Square. Unrest spreads to Ankara


Partizan

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There are reports of serious unrest in Turkey after police used baton charges, tear gas and water cannisters to clear protestors from Taksim Square in central Istanbul. The protests had entered their fourth day as the demonstrators were angry about plans to develop parts of Taksim Square. The police moved in and arrested dozens. What started out as an environmental protest has changed into that of a political tone. There are reports tonight that the protests have spread to the capital, Ankara and Izmir. There is widespread anger and discontent at Erdogan's government. Many different groups have joined the demonstrations. Could Turkey see its own version of the Arab Spring which has been engulfing its Mid East neighbours for over two years. Or is Turkey on the verge of a revolution?

BBC News - Turkey police clash with Istanbul Gezi Park protesters

[url]http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/05/2013531112443894367.html

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darkhorse

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Eh No - riots in Taksim Square are a regular occurance
Next question?
 

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You've obviously never heard of Galatasaray Vs. Fenerbahce.
 

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No, he's right lads,

The Furbs heard about this earlier, it's no joke,

The cops were ordered to put it down, by whatever means,

Military bused in too, apparently (unconfirmed)

Tear gas and OC deployed at random,

The OP has a point,

Turkey will light up, its building,
 

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There are reports of serious unrest in Turkey after police used baton charges, tear gas and water cannisters to clear protestors from Taksim Square in central Istanbul. The protests had entered their fourth day as the demonstrators were angry about plans to develop parts of Taksim Square. The police moved in and arrested dozens. What started out as an environmental protest has changed into that of a political tone. There are reports tonight that the protests have spread to the capital, Ankara and Izmir. There is widespread anger and discontent at Erdogan's government. Many different groups have joined the demonstrations. Could Turkey see its own version of the Arab Spring which has been engulfing its Mid East neighbours for over two years. Or is Turkey on the verge of a revolution?

BBC News - Turkey police clash with Istanbul Gezi Park protesters

[url]http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/05/2013531112443894367.html

[/URL]
You had better hope that Turkey does not blow.

That is one country where the ramifications will be felt directly in every country in Europe.

The Arab Spring we could ignore or just bomb if we wanted to. Turkey is different. Turkey has a modern military on a par with quite a few European powers. Also the Turkish economy is quite large and mostly dominant in the region. Any upset in Turkey is going to have major effects in Southern European, Balkans and Eastern Europe, let alone countries with large Turkish minorities.

This could effect everything from tee-shirts to computers coming into Europe. Izmir, is a major re-distrubtion port for European suppliers for goods coming from China.

The present leadership in Turkey I would love to see removed to be blunt as they are a bunch of fundementalist nutcases. However revolution in Turkey carries risks for all of Europe, not just Turkey and its neighbours.
 

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No, he's right lads,

The Furbs heard about this earlier, it's no joke,

The cops were ordered to put it down, by whatever means,

Military bused in too, apparently (unconfirmed)

Tear gas and OC deployed at random,

The OP has a point,

Turkey will light up, its building,
I really hope it doesn't.
 

Partizan

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You had better hope that Turkey does not blow.

That is one country where the ramifications will be felt directly in every country in Europe.

The Arab Spring we could ignore or just bomb if we wanted to. Turkey is different. Turkey has a modern military on a par with quite a few European powers. Also the Turkish economy is quite large and mostly dominant in the region. Any upset in Turkey is going to have major effects in Southern European, Balkans and Eastern Europe, let alone countries with large Turkish minorities.

This could effect everything from tee-shirts to computers coming into Europe. Izmir, is a major re-distrubtion port for European suppliers for goods coming from China.

The present leadership in Turkey I would love to see removed to be blunt as they are a bunch of fundementalist nutcases. However revolution in Turkey carries risks for all of Europe, not just Turkey and its neighbours.
Absolutely. Any revolution in Turkey will have huge knock on effects for Europe for reasons you outlined. There has been anger slowly building against Erdogan for the past while. The protests in Taksim which started out as an environmental one has manifested itself into a political one which has been joined by many groups and has spread to other cities. I think the torch has been lit.
 

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Absolutely. Any revolution in Turkey will have huge knock on effects for Europe for reasons you outlined. There has been anger slowly building against Erdogan for the past while. The protests in Taksim which started out as an environmental one has manifested itself into a political one which has been joined by many groups and has spread to other cities. I think the torch has been lit.
What huge knock on effects?
 

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Turkey is a strong military power.

Destabilising Turkey could possibly spark of a war in the Middle East or Balkans. Russia will not sit idly by if Turkey goes into revolution. Israel will be ready to strike in rings round it at a moments notice. Iran will definitely go into a state of heightened military alert. Greece will freak out and go into paranoid mode. If Turkey undergoes a revolution, the Greek military will probably install a junta within minutes and start preparing for possible war.

Also as I explained earlier http://www.politics.ie/forum/foreign-affairs/211372-turkey-now-about-blow-serious-disturbances-taksim-square-unrest-spreads-ankara.html#post6830731 there are trade considerations for every European country, financial considerations as there is a lot of European investment in the growing Turkish economy.

During the present economic crisis in Europe, an unstable Turkey or even worse in revolution could be a tipping point for several economies in Europe.

This is the last thing we need at the moment.

A stable Turkey is in everyone's interest.

Anyone wanting revolution in Turkey is beyond insane.
 

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Turkey is a strong military power.

Destabilising Turkey could possibly spark of a war in the Middle East or Balkans. Russia will not sit idly by if Turkey goes into revolution. Israel will be ready to strike in rings round it at a moments notice.

Also as I explained earlier http://www.politics.ie/forum/foreign-affairs/211372-turkey-now-about-blow-serious-disturbances-taksim-square-unrest-spreads-ankara.html#post6830731 there are trade considerations for every European country, financial considerations as there is a lot of European investment in the growing Turkish economy.

During the present economic crisis in Europe, an unstable Turkey or even worse in revolution could be a tipping point for several economies in Europe.

This is the last thing we need at the moment.

A stable Turkey is in everyone's interest.
What about the Turkish people?

Or should they just put up with a puppet government?
 

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Turkey is not about to 'blow'
Its a stable democracy these days
No more than America or Germany is about to blow
 

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What about the Turkish people?

Or should they just put up with a puppet government?
The Turkish people I would really worry about if it came to revolution. Turks know how to fight, are trained to fight and are very determined people. A civil war would be a catastrophe of unimaginable proportions for all Turks and the surrounding areas.

They should vote out the present government at the next election.
 

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The Turkish people I would really worry about if it came to revolution. Turks know how to fight, are trained to fight and are very determined people. A civil war would be a catastrophe of unimaginable proportions for all Turks and the surrounding areas.

They should vote out the present government at the next election.
They know how to fight all right when they committed genocide against the Armenia people and stole most of their land.
 

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The Turkish people I would really worry about if it came to revolution. Turks know how to fight, are trained to fight and are very determined people. A civil war would be a catastrophe of unimaginable proportions for all Turks and the surrounding areas.

They should vote out the present government at the next election.
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