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Israel Deputy Chief of Staff warns of 'Nazi trends' in Israel.

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I'm wondering why you have to tell us what he really means. We can all read you know, it's like a panic to get back on message because one of your own calls it like it is.
I don't doubt you can read one or two sentences. In fact, that is about as far as it usually goes, and it is the same fact that those who see you as a useful fool rely on.

But I was referring to the contents of his entire speech; to the particular audience he was addressing; to the roles and responsibilities of the particular job he is tasked to do by the Israeli people.

It's called context, and when I read threads such as this one, you can usually bet that it is entirely missing.
 


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I don't doubt you can read one or two sentences. In fact, that is about as far as it usually goes, and it is the same fact that those who see you as a useful fool rely on.

But I was referring to the contents of his entire speech; to the particular audience he was addressing; to the roles and responsibilities of the particular job he is tasked to do by the Israeli people.

It's called context, and when I read threads such as this, you can bet that it is entirely missing.

Have you spoken to Netanyahu to get him back on message?
 

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Worst. Hasbarist. Ever
 

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"Back on message". "Hasbara". "Netanyahu". Who here's "on message", bleat, bleat...


It makes more sense than your Orwellian bull************************.
 

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IDF general agrees with suspended Labour councillor...does that make him an anti semite now :roll:

Meanwhile he is right about israels obvious racism and facism,the attacks against him only highlight the deep denial of israel.
Some in the israeli government that are doing so should look at their own racist speeches and comments to see that he is 100% correct..especially when he says it is self-destruction and a moral deterioration.
Nothing new there.What is the response from the racist israeli government..its all lies?
 

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He's gone quiet on this one, probably thinks that saying nothing is better to allow it to slip down the front page.

If only Memri had done the translations we'd never have heard a thing about it.....
 

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He's gone quiet on this one, probably thinks that saying nothing is better to allow it to slip down the front page.

If only Memri had done the translations we'd never have heard a thing about it.....
That's right, the hasbarists are under direction to drop discussions where they are on to a total loser.
 

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The general was a hero in israel when he was killing innocent Palestinians,and also when he was caught using them as human shields.
But now he is being vilified when he speaks the truth about israels racism,and it's hurting them bad.
 

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I don't doubt you can read one or two sentences. In fact, that is about as far as it usually goes, and it is the same fact that those who see you as a useful fool rely on.

But I was referring to the contents of his entire speech; to the particular audience he was addressing; to the roles and responsibilities of the particular job he is tasked to do by the Israeli people.

It's called context, and when I read threads such as this one, you can usually bet that it is entirely missing.
Just a couple of days ago the leftistics here were celebrating Golan's speech. And they even said, if I remember right, that Breaking the Silence should invite him to speak.

BUT then it became clear to them that Golan actually had good words to say about the IDF. So it turned out again as some kind of a boomerang, promoting someone who says just the opposite of what the leftistics here say all the time.

It's wonderful!
 

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bump
 

james toney

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Thank you for bumping this,you amateur hasbarists are so kind and obliging.

"Even if what Golan said were true, it would hurt our image abroad." - Minister Ayelet Shaked spoke about this at length today.

So what damage does it do to israel abroad?
A Minister of Justice who wants to make the Apartheid in the West Bank official, and on Facebook calls for genocide.
The same when a member of her party asserts that the burning of a Palestinian teenager and that of a whole family are in fact justified acts of revenge.
Loyalty laws, oppression of civil organizations, and really anything the jewish Home party and the right-wing government do.

The real problem with the Deputy Chief of Staff’s comments is that he was simply right.
 

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What on earth was going through that anti-Semite general’s head when he dared hint that we, the Chosen People, commit abominable acts like those perpetrated by the gentiles? Really, what's he talking about?

OK, let’s start with the small details known to everyone. Maybe he was talking about:

1. The rising number of calls proclaiming, “Death to the unchosen people!”

2. The demands not to employ the “unchosen” ones, buy from them or rent or sell apartments to them, and drive them from the Holy Land (all sanctified by the Rabbinate and other kosher rabbis, naturally).

3. The growing thuggishness that labels every “unchosen” person a legitimate target for insults, abuse, assaults, vilification and, if possible, manslaughter.

4. A soccer team that swears its ranks will include only those of pure blood and religion, and whose fans’ most popular chant is “Death to the unchosen ones.”

5. A society that produces pogrom-like actions and lynch mobs, church and mosque arsonists, and plenty of thugs and scoundrels.

6. Elected officials encouraging extrajudicial killings on our streets.

7. A lawmaker (and his wife) openly demanding racial segregation between the pure and impure in maternity wards.

In short, no big deal - just routine matters that no longer excite folk. Consequently, we have no choice but to expand the list and include some other items that may have escaped the collective memory...

8. Spiritual leaders who publish books that determine when it’s acceptable to kill gentiles and their children. These religious leaders still tend their flocks.

9. A movement that defends the purity of the people and its blood, and persecutes lecherous “unchosen” ones who dare consort with daughters of the Chosen Ones in order to defile them. On his Facebook page, the head of this holy movement calls for the mass murder of the “unchosen ones,” knowing no harm will befall him.

10. Tens, if not hundreds or thousands, of businesses boasting of their employees’ purity.

11. The chief Sephardi peddler of religion who declared, “Goyim were created solely to serve the Chosen People.” His noble predecessors determined that only Slavic nations were created in order to serve the then-master race. Our religious pastor surpasses them: he deemed all nations our servants.

12. The education and culture ministers, who work tirelessly to synchronize education, culture, the media and arts, so everyone speaks in unison about one people, one state, one Torah and one viewpoint.

13. The brilliant legal sophistry that prohibits the “unchosen” ones from purchasing state lands. Only the Chosen People may do so.

14. The hundreds of communities that meticulously ensure the purity of their chosen population. The “unchosen” may not enter their gates lest they cause contamination by their very presence. All of this is legal.

15. The Absentee Property Law, which regulates the assets of “absentees” even when the “absentees” are clearly present and living a stone’s throw away. Only the laws of Chosen People have clauses relating to “absent-present” persons whose presence doesn’t detract from their status as “absentees.”

16. The fact that the assets of the “chosen ones” remain theirs forever, even after thousands of years of abandonment that exceed any statute of limitations. In contrast, the assets of the “unchosen” – even when they’re still holding them – will be confiscated, stolen, expropriated and transferred to the Chosen People. Just as our magnanimous Lord in heaven decreed.

17. A society that controls millions of “inferior” people who lack civil and human rights, downtrodden by a mechanism called the “Civil Administration” and headed by a general.

18. A state that locks up a million and a half people in a gigantic enclosure, unsure whether to call it “Pale of Settlement” or the “Gaza Ghetto.”

19. A regime that imposes a grotesque legal system upon millions, which doesn’t require evidence and shows no truth, justice or compassion. However, the system does have a “court” – a contemptible theater whose main purpose is to give a “legal” and “authorized” appearance to a military dictatorship.

20. A justice minister who goes out of her way to crush the legal system, liberating the rulers at last from oppressive legal constraints.

21. A government that rules an occupied people, and sometimes its own subjects, according to emergency regulations that give it limitless authority “for security reasons.” (Damn, I wish I could remember where I’ve heard of this trick being used before.)

22. A state – unique among all the world’s democracies – in which there’s no legal way for a “chosen” person to marry an “unchosen” one.

23. A government that wholeheartedly believes in the Chosen People’s right to continue expanding eastward. This space extends from Mesopotamia to Nuweiba.

24. A state that insists it’s the “only democracy” in the Middle East, whereas it’s actually the only “military theocracy” in the entire world.

25. A state that proves pop psychology is occasionally accurate in its diagnosis: an abused child can indeed become an abusive adult.

And that’s pretty much it.

Is it because of these piffling details that Obersturmbannführer Golan remembered what he did? Odd. Very odd. There’s no comparison, clearly.


Why Would That General Compare Israel to 1930s Germany? Hmm... - Opinion - Haaretz - Israel News Haaretz.com
 

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Netanyahu is extremely smart, but also at odds with most of Israel's intelligentsia

It would not surprise me to be told Israeli public servants have considered extreme measures to neutralize him

Cyp
 

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What on earth was going through that anti-Semite general’s head when he dared hint that we, the Chosen People, commit abominable acts like those perpetrated by the gentiles? Really, what's he talking about?

OK, let’s start with the small details known to everyone. Maybe he was talking about:

1. The rising number of calls proclaiming, “Death to the unchosen people!”

2. The demands not to employ the “unchosen” ones, buy from them or rent or sell apartments to them, and drive them from the Holy Land (all sanctified by the Rabbinate and other kosher rabbis, naturally).

3. The growing thuggishness that labels every “unchosen” person a legitimate target for insults, abuse, assaults, vilification and, if possible, manslaughter.

4. A soccer team that swears its ranks will include only those of pure blood and religion, and whose fans’ most popular chant is “Death to the unchosen ones.”

5. A society that produces pogrom-like actions and lynch mobs, church and mosque arsonists, and plenty of thugs and scoundrels.

6. Elected officials encouraging extrajudicial killings on our streets.

7. A lawmaker (and his wife) openly demanding racial segregation between the pure and impure in maternity wards.

In short, no big deal - just routine matters that no longer excite folk. Consequently, we have no choice but to expand the list and include some other items that may have escaped the collective memory...

8. Spiritual leaders who publish books that determine when it’s acceptable to kill gentiles and their children. These religious leaders still tend their flocks.

9. A movement that defends the purity of the people and its blood, and persecutes lecherous “unchosen” ones who dare consort with daughters of the Chosen Ones in order to defile them. On his Facebook page, the head of this holy movement calls for the mass murder of the “unchosen ones,” knowing no harm will befall him.

10. Tens, if not hundreds or thousands, of businesses boasting of their employees’ purity.

11. The chief Sephardi peddler of religion who declared, “Goyim were created solely to serve the Chosen People.” His noble predecessors determined that only Slavic nations were created in order to serve the then-master race. Our religious pastor surpasses them: he deemed all nations our servants.

12. The education and culture ministers, who work tirelessly to synchronize education, culture, the media and arts, so everyone speaks in unison about one people, one state, one Torah and one viewpoint.

13. The brilliant legal sophistry that prohibits the “unchosen” ones from purchasing state lands. Only the Chosen People may do so.

14. The hundreds of communities that meticulously ensure the purity of their chosen population. The “unchosen” may not enter their gates lest they cause contamination by their very presence. All of this is legal.

15. The Absentee Property Law, which regulates the assets of “absentees” even when the “absentees” are clearly present and living a stone’s throw away. Only the laws of Chosen People have clauses relating to “absent-present” persons whose presence doesn’t detract from their status as “absentees.”

16. The fact that the assets of the “chosen ones” remain theirs forever, even after thousands of years of abandonment that exceed any statute of limitations. In contrast, the assets of the “unchosen” – even when they’re still holding them – will be confiscated, stolen, expropriated and transferred to the Chosen People. Just as our magnanimous Lord in heaven decreed.

17. A society that controls millions of “inferior” people who lack civil and human rights, downtrodden by a mechanism called the “Civil Administration” and headed by a general.

18. A state that locks up a million and a half people in a gigantic enclosure, unsure whether to call it “Pale of Settlement” or the “Gaza Ghetto.”

19. A regime that imposes a grotesque legal system upon millions, which doesn’t require evidence and shows no truth, justice or compassion. However, the system does have a “court” – a contemptible theater whose main purpose is to give a “legal” and “authorized” appearance to a military dictatorship.

20. A justice minister who goes out of her way to crush the legal system, liberating the rulers at last from oppressive legal constraints.

21. A government that rules an occupied people, and sometimes its own subjects, according to emergency regulations that give it limitless authority “for security reasons.” (Damn, I wish I could remember where I’ve heard of this trick being used before.)

22. A state – unique among all the world’s democracies – in which there’s no legal way for a “chosen” person to marry an “unchosen” one.

23. A government that wholeheartedly believes in the Chosen People’s right to continue expanding eastward. This space extends from Mesopotamia to Nuweiba.

24. A state that insists it’s the “only democracy” in the Middle East, whereas it’s actually the only “military theocracy” in the entire world.

25. A state that proves pop psychology is occasionally accurate in its diagnosis: an abused child can indeed become an abusive adult.

And that’s pretty much it.

Is it because of these piffling details that Obersturmbannführer Golan remembered what he did? Odd. Very odd. There’s no comparison, clearly.


Why Would That General Compare Israel to 1930s Germany? Hmm... - Opinion - Haaretz - Israel News Haaretz.com
Ja wohl obergestapenfuhrer!
 

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I bet the Anti Semite israeli general has never been called that before..but give it time..it will come.

The general would never be invited by the much celebrated BtS. I bet they didn't like him saying good things about the IDF.
 

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He rightly said israel are the oppressors..and he should know as he done enough of it himself.
golan can use the get out clause that the lunatic Netanyahu used..blame the mufti..and then admit he was wrong there also.

Israel: Will Nazism comparisons trigger soul searching? - AJE News
Golan said what he felt was right to say. He is entitled to his own thoughts and opinions, though as a deputy chief of the IDF he has no right to express those thoughts like a political figure.

As for the mufti - we all know he was a nzi collaborator, and that he was and still admired by many in the invented Palestinian nation.
 

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