Israel forced to slow their Genocide in Gaza and Ease LAND Blockade

Banshee

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It looks like the Rachel Corrie human aids relief ship and, the pressure put on Israel after the massacre of Turkish human aids right workers may have caused a slight slowing down of the genocide by Israel:

Israel to ease Gaza blockade ? but only over land - Need to know - Macleans.ca

Human Rights Groups are demanding a complete lifting of the blockade.

“Gaza especially needs construction material, which must be allowed to come in without restrictions"
 


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Like I said on another thread, this is all about PR. What is needed is a complete dropping of the blockade. Israel will be praised for how 'humane' it is being in allowing a few slabs of concrete into Gaza, and within a few weeks or months, when the world's attention are elsewhere, the even more draconian restrictions will be re-imposed.

It's fitting that the demonic "Middle East peace envoy' Tony Blair pressed for an 'easing' rather than a lifting of the siege. His handlers in Tel Aviv obviously sent the word down to him that everything had to be left in Israel's hands. Tony knows his place.
 

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Like I said on another thread, this is all about PR. What is needed is a complete dropping of the blockade. Israel will be praised for how 'humane' it is being in allowing a few slabs of concrete into Gaza, and within a few weeks or months, when the world's attention are elsewhere, the even more draconian restrictions will be re-imposed.

It's fitting that the demonic "Middle East peace envoy' Tony Blair pressed for an 'easing' rather than a lifting of the siege. His handlers in Tel Aviv obviously sent the word down to him that everything had to be left in Israel's hands. Tony knows his place.
Gotta get those missiles in eh ?
 
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Moronic OP.

Israel is at war with the Hamas government. It has every right to blockade the Gaza Strip by land, sea and air.

If the 26 counties was under attack from across the border we would be perfectly entitled to blockade the north if we had the means to do so.
 

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Gotta get those missiles in eh ?
I seem to remember someone saying something just a while ago about you being unable to make a contribution which doesn't involve an attempt at a sarky comment. Seems you have proved them right once again!
 

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I seem to remember someone saying something just a while ago about you being unable to make a contribution which doesn't involve an attempt at a sarky comment. Seems you have proved them right once again!
You set 'em up... I'll shoot ' em :p
 

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Like I said on another thread, this is all about PR. What is needed is a complete dropping of the blockade. Israel will be praised for how 'humane' it is being in allowing a few slabs of concrete into Gaza, and within a few weeks or months, when the world's attention are elsewhere, the even more draconian restrictions will be re-imposed.

It's fitting that the demonic "Middle East peace envoy' Tony Blair pressed for an 'easing' rather than a lifting of the siege. His handlers in Tel Aviv obviously sent the word down to him that everything had to be left in Israel's hands. Tony knows his place.
Blair is still a US/Israeli PUPPET

Just like with his illegal War of Terror in Iraq, he has NO moral credibility in his current position.

It will take a massive multi-national flotilla to end this genocide.

This partial lifting is nothing but a farce, altough I do believe that a massive international human aids convoy overland is being organised to help the prisoners in the Israeli Concentration Camp AKA Gaza
 

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Just like with his illegal War of Terror in Iraq, he has NO moral credibility in his current position.
Wasn't it George Galloway who said putting him in that job was akin to putting dracula in charge of the blood bank?
 

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Gotta get those missiles in eh ?
This is how they do it
The U.S. is seeking to hire a merchant ship to deliver hundreds of tonnes of arms to Israel from Greece later this month, tender documents seen by Reuters show.

The U.S. Navy's Military Sealift Command (MSC) said the ship was to carry 325 standard 20-foot containers of what is listed as "ammunition" on two separate journeys from the Greek port of Astakos to the Israeli port of Ashdod in mid-to-late January.

A "hazardous material" designation on the manifest mentions explosive substances and detonators, but no other details were given.

"Shipping 3,000-odd tonnes of ammunition in one go is a lot," one broker said, on condition of anonymity.

"This (kind of request) is pretty rare and we haven't seen much of it quoted in the market over the years," he added.

The U.S. Defense Department, contacted by Reuters on Friday in Washington, had no immediate comment.

The MSC transports armour and military supplies for the U.S. armed forces aboard its own fleet, but regularly hires merchant ships if logistics so require.

The request for the ship was made on Dec. 31, with the first leg of the charter to arrive no later than January 25 and the second at the end of the month.

The tender for the vessel follows the hiring of a commercial ship to carry a much larger consignment of ordnance in December from the United States to Israel ahead of air strikes in the Gaza Strip.

A German shipping firm which won that tender confirmed the order when contacted by Reuters but declined to comment further.

CHARTERS "RARE"

Shipping brokers in London who have specialised in moving arms for the British and U.S. military in the past said such ship charters to Israel were rare.

Israel is one of America's closest allies and both nations regularly sell arms to each other.

A senior military analyst in London who declined to be named said that, because of the timing, the shipments could be "irregular" and linked to the Gaza offensive.

The ship hired by the MSC in December was for a much larger cargo of arms, tender documents showed.

That stipulated a ship to be chartered for 42 days capable of carrying 989 standard 20-foot containers from Sunny Point, North Carolina to Ashdod.

The tender document said the vessel had to be capable of "carrying 5.8 million pounds (2.6 million kg) of net explosive weight", which specialist brokers said was a very large quantity.

The ship was requested early last month to load on December 15.

In September, the U.S. Congress aproved the sale of 1,000 bunker-buster missiles to Israel. The GPS-guided GBU-39 is said to be one of the most accurate bombs in the world.

The Jerusalem Post, citing defence officials, reported last week that a first shipment of the missiles had arrived in early December and they were used in pentetrating Hamas's underground rocket launcher sites.
 

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Blair is still a US/Israeli PUPPET

Just like with his illegal War of Terror in Iraq, he has NO moral credibility in his current position.

It will take a massive multi-national flotilla to end this genocide.

This partial lifting is nothing but a farce, altough I do believe that a massive international human aids convoy overland is being organised to help the prisoners in the Israeli Concentration Camp AKA Gaza
Wasn't it George Galloway who said putting him in that job was akin to putting dracula in charge of the blood bank?
:) I didn't hear that one but very good from Galloway.

Blair is a mercenary on a mission for a place in history to ease his conscience.

But, unlike Gerry Adams, David Ervine etc. he has neither the understanding, courage or ability to make contructive decisions bringing people with him. Nothing, other than what he told by the US.

A partial lifting of land blockades, like Blair, is useless.
 

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It said on the news that the zionists are leaving in building materials. I know this partial lifting is no where near good enough but that is great news. Maybe now the Gaza strip will stop looking like a wasteland. Until Israel bombs the crap out of it again that is.

On the subject of smuggling missiles in, well the gaza people have every right to arm themselves as much as possible for the sake of defence. An entitlement that zionists never fail to explain to us Israel have.
 

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It said on the news that the zionists are leaving in building materials. I know this partial lifting is no where near good enough but that is great news.
Well, as another thread points out, the Yahoo has uttered contradictory statements on Gaza, not mentioning any 'easing' of the blockade in his Hebrew speeches.

Besides, even if Israel is graciously 'allowing' a few sacks of cement into GAza for PR purposes now, what about when the spotlight is off them and the world's attentions are elsewhere? Anything short of a total lifting of the blockade allows Israel to continue to hold the men, women and children of Gaza hostage. That is unacceptable.
 

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Besides, even if Israel is graciously 'allowing' a few sacks of cement into GAza for PR purposes now, what about when the spotlight is off them and the world's attentions are elsewhere? Anything short of a total lifting of the blockade allows Israel to continue to hold the men, women and children of Gaza hostage. That is unacceptable.
Exactly. At the most they'll let it go until the next rocket attack, where they'll stop it as punishment, or they'll just wait until the world moves on and do it then. It's unfortunate for the Palestinians that the flotilla happened so close to the oil spill as they had a real chance to dominate US media for a while. That's been severely curtailed, and Obama's and the US's attention diverted elsewhere. The blockade's going no where until the US say it is, neither's the peace plan.
 

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Personally, I think the Gaza people should be free to migrate to anywhere in the Arab world.
The Arabs should end their blockade immediatly.
 

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Moronic OP.

Israel is at war with the Hamas government. It has every right to blockade the Gaza Strip by land, sea and air.

If the 26 counties was under attack from across the border we would be perfectly entitled to blockade the north if we had the means to do so.
There was a similar situation occured in Derry 30 odd years back. The British Government apologised for it the other day!
 

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Are banshee and Future Taoiseach competing for title of most hysterical poster?

Fact is that Hamas and Israel are at war. A war generally involves the use of as much force as possible to kill as many enemies (however that may be defined) as possible. Luckily for Israel, Hamas' ability to kill Israelis is minuscule. Luckily for Hamas / Gaza, Israel doesn't have the stomach to conduct a war in the manner that, say, the Allied and Axis powers fought one in Europe.

I don't support either side, but why in the name of Angus Young would Israel want to cease the blockade? Why? Hamas cannot win, yet they insist on carrying on with rocket attacks. It doesn't matter who's right, all that matters (in the political sense) is that Hamas cannot win and until they accept that fact the people of Gaza will continue to live as they do now with no improvement. Sad, but true.

The people of Gaza deserve better leadership and Hamas cannot provide it. Trashing Israel won't change that.
 

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It's unfortunate for the Palestinians that the flotilla happened so close to the oil spill as they had a real chance to dominate US media for a while. That's been severely curtailed, and Obama's and the US's attention diverted elsewhere.
AGain, I think you are being very naive. If the dead had been Israelis rather than Turks, do you think for even one milisecond that Obama's atention might have been 'diverted'? Not a chance. He'd have declared war on the perpetrators by now. And America's attention has not been diverted: Obama has unctiously praised Israel for its internal 'investigation' and its generous ofer to 'ease' the blockade. Also, congress are now very busy trying to punish the Turks for being cheeky enough not to take the same delight in Isareli murder as America does:

Turkey Shelves Israeli Cooperation, Considers breaking off Ties; Israel Lobbies in Congress denounce Ankara | Informed Comment

Israel could murder American citizens and Mr Change We Need would find a way to ignore it. Oh wait, that already happened...

mazzington

Fact is that Hamas and Israel are at war.
There is no legal basis for a 'war' between a state and (part of) the territory they occupy. It's part of Israel's pseudo-legal mumbo jumbo.
I don't support either side,
It's very obvious that you do.
 

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Moronic OP.

Israel is at war with the Hamas government. It has every right to blockade the Gaza Strip by land, sea and air.

If the 26 counties was under attack from across the border we would be perfectly entitled to blockade the north if we had the means to do so.

ssssshhhhh. Did'end you hear? "It all about PR" apparently. Now please stop talking about facts. ;)
 

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AGain, I think you are being very naive. If the dead had been Israelis rather than Turks, do you think for even one milisecond that Obama's atention might have been 'diverted'? Not a chance. He'd have declared war on the perpetrators by now. And America's attention has not been diverted: Obama has unctiously praised Israel for its internal 'investigation' and its generous ofer to 'ease' the blockade. Also, congress are now very busy trying to punish the Turks for being cheeky enough not to take the same delight in Isareli murder as America does:
I'm not being naive. If 9 Israeli citizens acting independently of their govt were killed by turkish police in international waters while on their way to commit what Turkey called a crime, I don't think the US would have done much about it either.

As it is, he praised his ally for allowing an investigation and for easing a blocade the US seems to have no philisophical objection to. Then he went back to something that matters to most Americans, the oil spill. I'm not sure what other people expected.
 


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