It Is Not a Bailout

consultant

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Talk and debate about 'bailouts' - whether it is one or isn't - totally detract from the reality of where we really are, what really has happened to us.

We, the Irish people are victims of betrayal and sell-out. It is as simple as that.

What is not so simple is the identification of those who are guilty of our betrayal.

On one level, we have the two parties who each shoulder 100% guilt for their roles in this sordid situation. Fianna Fail who have added further disgrace to their reputation and the quisling greens who through greed and hunger for the trappings of power readily prostituted themselves to their whore-masters.

Quislings and prostitutes? Look at independents such as Lowery, Healy-Rae etc. But don't expect any signs of shame.

But the opposition also have their own guilt to shoulder. Principal amongst these and to the greatest degree has to be Fine Gael who since 2007 largely went comatose and put organisation of THEIR party structure ahead of their responsibilities as the main opposition which they abdicated. How guilty? Would 80% be accurate?

Labour also must look at their inactivity and wait-for-the-election tactics. To a lesser degree than FG, admittedly - they managed the Doherty scalp and Burton and Gilmore regularly got under the skins of Lenihan and Cowen. 50%?

The only consistency of attempted opposition came from Sinn Fein.

Not for the first time have we been badly served by those we have elected but rarely if ever with such treachery.
 


Franzoni

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That protest for the 27th should be brought forward and we should do an Iceland until Cowen and Co resign in disgrace...

I agree with you about FG ..spineless and not much better,we have been ill served by these civil war parties for far too long....

No point bailing out this corrupt country unless we clean out from the top down....

Personally i wouldn't mind a EU intrim administration while we rebuild the political and social structures in this country,with some help from the yanks especially the specialists from the FBI who investigate corparate and political corruption as the Gardai don't seem to be up to the task of getting results against the people who have led us to this....

We need to start again across all spectrums of society....
 

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Even if it is a bailout it will be the cheapest bailout in the world to date. It will be no less than a call to patriotic arms. It will be a turning of the corner. It will draw a line under the banking issues. It will reassure the markets. Blah blah blah
 

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Even if it is a bailout it will be the cheapest bailout in the world to date. It will be no less than a call to patriotic arms. It will be a turning of the corner. It will draw a line under the banking issues. It will reassure the markets. Blah blah blah
Definitely agree that it will be Blah blah blah. Not at all sure it will be any of the other things.
 

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Even if it is a bailout it will be the cheapest bailout in the world to date. It will be no less than a call to patriotic arms. It will be a turning of the corner. It will draw a line under the banking issues. It will reassure the markets. Blah blah blah
a bit like the % rate on the bonds being subject to the ebb and flow of the market, funny how our tide has stayed out
 
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No, it ain't a bailout. I hereby propose that it henceforth be called a 'Heist'.
 

SlickWilly

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It will be a bailout, but we will ultimately be bailing Kraut banks out, when you think about it!
 

myksav

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It will be a bailout, but we will ultimately be bailing Kraut banks out, when you think about it!
Bold boy, you can't say truths like that about our German friends. :mad:
 

consultant

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No, it ain't a bailout. I hereby propose that it henceforth be called a 'Heist'.
Too soft.

It is the cost to the Irish public of the treachery of FF and its cohorts.

Just listen to what Cowen is saying on RTE News now. He wants to get away from word-games so 'treachery' should suffice.
 

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It will be a bailout, but we will ultimately be bailing Kraut banks out, when you think about it!
Yes, SW.

It is Ireland, under our great leader Brian Cowen that is bailing out the profligate German banks, and saving the entire world economy by our straight-dealing and honest toil.

The whole world is dumbstruck with admiration for us.

We should have a Bank Holiday, a big celebratory Victory Parade, and a commemorative verse inserted into the National Anthem. (any suggestions, anyone?.)

Now I know that not everyone will agree with me on this; there are always liars, rogues and traitors. So I suggest that when the new anti-begging law comes before the Dail a section be inserted making any criticism of the Goverment, FF or Ireland a criminal offence; along the lines of Holocaust Denial in some countries.
 
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TODevastated

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Too soft.

It is the cost to the Irish public of the treachery of FF and its cohorts.

Just listen to what Cowen is saying on RTE News now. He wants to get away from word-games so 'treachery' should suffice.
Oxford dictionary say a bailout is

"an act of giving financial assistance to a failing business or economy to save it from collapse…"

seems on the button to me
 

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Its a "digout" from all our EU friends. There will be no paperwork and it will be a debt of honour.

They are having the whiparound as we speak :)
 

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Yes, SW.

It is Ireland, under our great leader Brian Cowen that is bailing out the profligate German banks, and saving the entire world economy by our straight-dealing and honest toil.

The whole world is dumbstruck with admiration for us.

We should have a Bank Holiday, a big celebratory Victory Parade, and a commemorative verse inserted into the National Anthem. (any suggestions, anyone?.)

Now I know that not everyone will agree with me on this; there are always liars, rogues and traitors. So I suggest that when the new anti-begging law comes before the Dail a section be inserted making any criticism of the Goverment, FF or Ireland a criminal offence; along the lines of Holocaust Denial in some countries.
and a commemorative verse inserted into the National Anthem

in funds once again
in funds once again
and Ireland long in hock shall be
in funds once again

(sung to the tune of a Nation once again, once the IMF sorts us)
 

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and a commemorative verse inserted into the National Anthem

in funds once again
in funds once again
and Ireland long in hock shall be
in funds once again

(sung to the tune of a Nation once again, once the IMF sorts us)

Too republican to be sung in conjunction with FF regardless of where one places one's tongue.

Churchill is far more appropriate

"Never has so much been owed by so few to so many (suckers who can be conned at will).
 

consultant

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Back to the OP.

Whether or not there is a bailout is not the real issue. The very likelihood is an indictment of our government parties each to a greater or lesser extent.

I am at the stage where my bile rises as soon as I hear or see any of our FF or green politicians. I no longer accept any excuse of incompetence. What they have done to Ireland goes far beyond that.

And to a large extent, the main opposition stood idly by.
 

lady go ga ga

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tis nt a bailout tis not aint nope nada spondulicks no chance tissint teeling ya tis watch my waving hands i did not bailout or bailin NOT what it is init SHUT THE ************************ UP BRIAN YA SOLD MAN bailin bailin hay hay
 


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