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It's beginning to look an awful lot like .... Heathenmas!


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Jeremiah 10:2-4:
Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people [are] vain: for [one] cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
 
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Christmas is, of course, Hethanmas It is the conversion of a Pagan religious festival to a Christian one, just like All Hallows, Easter (Easter follows the equinox FFS) and VE Day (He He).
 

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"Heathen" is a rather pejorative word Andrew. You seem to be using it to describe those of us who do not/cannot believe in such fairy tales as virgin birth and transubstantiation, inter alia. Thus for our refusal to believe in that for which there is not one shred of evidence we are gratuitiously insulted.
 

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"Heathen" is a rather pejorative word Andrew. You seem to be using it to describe those of us who do not/cannot believe in such fairy tales as virgin birth and transubstantiation, inter alia. Thus for our refusal to believe in that for which there is not one shred of evidence we are gratuitiously insulted.
yet playing devils advocate you guys have no prolem believing you came from nothing 15 billion years ago.

how ya square that wheel :)
 

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well playing devils advocate you guys DO belive you came from nothing 15 billion years ago.

how ya square that wheel :)
Nowhere in the more accepted scientific theories for the origin of the Universe does it say that we came from "nothing". That is what the Bible says, that the sky fairy created us from nothing "and he saw that it was good".


Why not square these wheels:

- If God is all powerful, why did it take 6 days to get the job done?

- If everything in the Bible is to be taken literally, why did Jesus keep making up stories to get his point across.

- What is the obsession with foreskins in Samuel:

"27 David and his men went out and killed two hundred Philistines. He brought their foreskins and presented the full number to the king so that he might become the king's son-in-law. Then Saul gave him his daughter Michal in marriage."


And since then Inlaws everywhere have had a twisted relationship (damn you King David).

- Why do so many people insist that the King James Bible is the best representation of the original Hebrew and Greek? After all it was written to underpin the C of E version of the world rather than for accuracy.

- If religious people are so committed to their faith why not learn Greek and Hebrew so that you can read your holy book in its original form? Smacks of laziness to me.

- The Jews, the Christians and the Musliums cannot all be Gods chosen people, so your starting chance of being in or choosing the right religion is 1 in 3. Then you have to be in the right sect within the chosen peoples religion........, and THEN you have to be a good boy or girl. Them's is some long odds.


On a more general note-

To all women:

Men have a really hard time because God stole one of our ribs to make you so you can give out to us about leaving the toilet seat up all the time. Go easy on us. How would you feel if God stole one of your body parts? It is not easy to bend over to put the seat down if you are missing a rib.

Thanks in advance

RIch
 

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Trampas Wrote:
"Heathen" is a rather pejorative word Andrew. You seem to be using it to describe those of us who do not/cannot believe in such fairy tales as virgin birth and transubstantiation, inter alia. Thus for our refusal to believe in that for which there is not one shred of evidence we are gratuitiously insulted.
 
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im boycotting christmas this year in protest against the inane commercialism ,gerry ryan , pat kenny ripping up toy show tickets , cold weather , weekend invasions of newry by southerners who are parked right up to killeen and who fight over the last bottle of port in sainsburys , and having to buy sh*t for other people in the middle of a recession. Our Lord Jesus christ was not born to bring any of the above into existence , except perhaps cold weather . He certainly did not die for it .

im arranging my sparkling chrstmas lights in the window to spell f*ck off .

so there
 

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To all women:

Men have a really hard time because God stole one of our ribs to make you so you can give out to us about leaving the toilet seat up all the time. Go easy on us. How would you feel if God stole one of your body parts? It is not easy to bend over to put the seat down if you are missing a rib.

Thanks in advance

RIch[/QUOTE]

As Holy God is our creator how dare you say that He "stole" one of your useless, lazy, good for nothing ribs? God can do anything he wants with us or any parts thereof and to even think differently is a mortal sin and you shall burn in hell forever. Not that you men would even notice where you were until you get hungry and it dawns on you that the bloody central heating is at max and no wonder you never have a penny to bless yourself with.

Women are very aware of that bit of you that you want back. Well, you cannot have it. Its the part of us that will not cook the dinner, or if the dinner is cooked it is inedible. Its the part of us that "pops out to say hello to the lads" and doesn't come home until the next morning. Its the part of us who forgets birthdays and anniversaries, and thinks a bunch of horrible dead looking flowers that the garage has been trying to get rid of since summer, is "wonderful and I'm to bound to have a nudge nudge, wink wink night.

How I am not arrested when I pass the butchers I just don't know. I howl with the laughter, point wildly like a lunatic at the huge displays of......"Spare Ribs half price today only".

God knew what he was doing alright. He knew we would never get anything good for us, so the took a rib from each of you lazy bums. Just one of his many jokes.
 

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To all women:

Men have a really hard time because God stole one of our ribs to make you so you can give out to us about leaving the toilet seat up all the time. Go easy on us. How would you feel if God stole one of your body parts? It is not easy to bend over to put the seat down if you are missing a rib.

Thanks in advance

RIch
As Holy God is our creator how dare you say that He "stole" one of your useless, lazy, good for nothing ribs? God can do anything he wants with us or any parts thereof and to even think differently is a mortal sin and you shall burn in hell forever. Not that you men would even notice where you were until you get hungry and it dawns on you that the bloody central heating is at max and no wonder you never have a penny to bless yourself with.

Women are very aware of that bit of you that you want back. Well, you cannot have it. Its the part of us that will not cook the dinner, or if the dinner is cooked it is inedible. Its the part of us that "pops out to say hello to the lads" and doesn't come home until the next morning. Its the part of us who forgets birthdays and anniversaries, and thinks a bunch of horrible dead looking flowers that the garage has been trying to get rid of since summer, is "wonderful and I'm to bound to have a nudge nudge, wink wink night.

How I am not arrested when I pass the butchers I just don't know. I howl with the laughter, point wildly like a lunatic at the huge displays of......"Spare Ribs half price today only".

God knew what he was doing alright. He knew we would never get anything good for us, so the took a rib from each of you lazy bums. Just one of his many jokes.
If I am hungry in hell I shall barbecue, the necessary fires will be available - spare ribs




mmmmmmmmmm ribs.






And I'll use this sauce (got to support local industry)

 

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Is it too early to put up a tree?
 

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Is it too early to put up a tree?
One of my neighbours does not think so...

Herself got a plastic yoke in the January sales and is determined to put it up. While I went along with it because the memories of the limp, faded shedding monstrosity was fresh in my mind in Jan last year, I may rebel and get a real dead tree this year and keep it real...
 

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What about the ould crib, papa Benny said recently there were no animals and no angels singing, that it was based on a myth!

Fukk me, he got the myth part right!
 

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Well, if the Christians go hijacking pagan festivals, then they have only themselves to blame when those events become marked by pagan symbols.

I put my tree up yesterday. To hell with the begrudgers.
 

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A woman in Florida got an early Christmas surprise -- a bad one -- when she unrolled a sheet of "Christmassy" looking green and gold wrapping paper, only to find it covered with swastikas. LINK
 
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Years ago, I discovered a way to deal with the pre-Christmas hype.

By ignoring the Irish media. Try it. It is liberating. Your time is precious.
 

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The Evangelical poster boy and erstwhile teen hunk of Growing Pains tells Christian fundamentalists that they need to lighten up in Kirk Cameron’s Saving Christmas. Cameron reveals the real reason we’re here.
“Have you noticed there are some people who would love to put a big wet blanket on all of this?” he asks. “They don’t want us to love Christmas.”
What kind of abominable killjoy would be against loving presents and cookies? Atheists? Satanists? Gays? No. In fact, the chief complaint of these holiday haters, according to Cameron, is that Christmas traditions from the tree to baby Jesus’s birthday, to Santa himself just aren’t biblical.
“What are they going to do next?” he asks. “Tell us hot chocolate is bad? That the Druids invented it?”
Saving Christmas from .. Christians!
 

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While forced labor didn’t make the Nazis bat an eye, the commercialization of their Aryan Christmas seems to have bothered them as much as it bugs some people today. Savvy entrepreneurs blended Christmas kitsch with Nazi symbolism and began churning out swastika-shaped Christmas tree lights and cookie cutters, chocolate SS men, and sig rune-patterned wrapping paper. LINK
 
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