Jailed US Taliban fighter seeks to move to Ireland post prison release.

Scitlipo

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Remember John Walker Lindh, the American who became a Muslim and went to Afghanistan to fight for the Taliban? Well news reports suggest that he obtained Irish citizenship in 2013, through his Irish grandmother, and apparently he wants to move here because life in the US will be near next to impossible for him.


""Wendy Lyon from Dublin-based KOD solicitors said those applying for Irish citizenship cannot be refused for security reasons if they meet the application criteria.
She said: “If a person meets the criteria for citizenship by descent, under the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Acts, they can’t be refused on security grounds.

“Where the Irish citizen ancestor was a grandparent they do have to register their birth on the Foreign Births Register in order to be recognised as an Irish citizen, but this is just a matter of providing the documentary evidence and paying the fee.

“The Minister has no discretion to refuse an application that meets these criteria.
”"

Leaked intelligence reports portray Lindh as unrepentant and said he translated extremist literature during his time in prison.

Former Taliban fighter hopes to move to Ireland after US jail release
Would a change in the law might prevent this bollix from coming here.
Any suggestions?
 
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Remember John Walker Lindh, the American who became a Muslim and went to Afghanistan to fight for the Taliban? Well news reports suggest that he obtained Irish citizenship in 2013, through his Irish grandmother, and apparently he wants to move here because life in the US will be near next to impossible for him.


""Wendy Lyon from Dublin-based KOD solicitors said those applying for Irish citizenship cannot be refused for security reasons if they meet the application criteria.
She said: “If a person meets the criteria for citizenship by descent, under the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Acts, they can’t be refused on security grounds.

“Where the Irish citizen ancestor was a grandparent they do have to register their birth on the Foreign Births Register in order to be recognised as an Irish citizen, but this is just a matter of providing the documentary evidence and paying the fee.

“The Minister has no discretion to refuse an application that meets these criteria.
”"

Leaked intelligence reports portray Lindh as unrepentant and said he translated extremist literature during his time in prison.

Former Taliban fighter hopes to move to Ireland after US jail release
Would a change in the law might prevent this bollix from coming here.
Any suggestions?
Good tune

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He can fukk off and rot where he is, no way should scum like that ever be allowed to move here.
 

Mick Mac

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It's very easy to be passionate about the rights of men who went to fight for an extremely far right hate group when your also making a bob of them.

Take a bow lady, feminist my eye.
 
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between the bridges

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Dunno what the big deal is sure yez have been harboring terrorists for decades...
 

Spanner Island

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He can fukk off and rot where he is, no way should scum like that ever be allowed to move here.
Hmmm... that response might make you feel good for a few seconds... but it doesn't address the issue in the slightest...

Perhaps we need a change in OUR laws or in OUR constitution...

It's like everything really... most of OUR problems are home grown.
 

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You should not be allowed to stop an Irish citizen from coming to Ireland. If he is a genuine security risk then he can be arrested and tried, do you want to set a precedent where the government can decide what Irish citizens are allowed to live here?
 

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Hmmm... that response might make you feel good for a few seconds... but it doesn't address the issue in the slightest...

Perhaps we need a change in OUR laws or in OUR constitution...

It's like everything really... most of OUR problems are home grown.
He was a member of the taliban ffs no way should he be allowed sanctuary here.
 

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Only let him live in Urlingford, he'll fuk off home soon enough
 

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His own solicitor gave the solution

Lyon said: “An Irish passport can be refused where the person is a threat to public safety or security. But they’re still an Irish citizen - just one who is not permitted to hold an Irish passport. Such cases are extremely rare.”

Hard to see how he is not a threat to public safety and security
 

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Dunno what the big deal is sure yez have been harboring terrorists for decades...
If, and it's a huge if, we accept your premise that the IRA were terrorists then it's not comparable since supporters of the Republican movement did not campaign on Monday for unity, Tuesday for the Irish language, and Wednesday for someone diametrically opposed to Republicanism.

I hope they get him over. It'll surely dawn on some eventually that you can't rail against homophobia and misogyny but still expect to have some gain from the whole farrago. A point made in general and not specific you understand.
 
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Hard to see how he is not a threat to public safety and security
Have you inside information? Has he threatened the Irish state? What exactly is his threat to public safety and security?

Do dissident republicans not form a much larger threat? Should they be removed from the country?
 

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Have you inside information? Has he threatened the Irish state? What exactly is his threat to public safety and security?

Do dissident republicans not form a much larger threat? Should they be removed from the country?
He was part of a dangerous islamic organisation that's how he is a threat.
 

Krusty Cork

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The information is in the article

He is unrepentant Taliban fighter and translated extremist literature during his time in prison.

He has also been reported to support other extremist Islamic groups and met Osama Bin Laden during his time in Afghanistan.

You are inviting trouble if he is let into the country. Doubt he will change just because he can enter Ireland

Bit different to dissident republicans in that he has dual citizenship. He can stay in America
 

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He was a member of the taliban ffs no way should he be allowed sanctuary here.
I tend to agree with you there but if you read the OP it would seem that he cannot be discriminated against due to this reason... which would suggest the problem is at OUR end... as usual.

"Wendy Lyon from Dublin-based KOD solicitors said those applying for Irish citizenship cannot be refused for security reasons if they meet the application criteria."

Now either Wendy is clueless and talking sh!te or she's not and is right about a sh!te system that probably needs changing.

Either way... the issue seems to be at this end.
 


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