Jailing IRA murderers "absolutely counterproductive' - Adams



HenryHorace

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Time to move on lad. The war is over.
 

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He really has to go. He's just a relic at this point. The party can't move on, can't expand the base while he's there.

There was a deal done. Whoever killed this guy weren't part of that deal. They're subject to the same rules as anyone else.

It's honestly inconceivable that the leader of a party with an eye on getting into power could say otherwise.
 

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I really wish Mary Lou would get organized and figure out some way to give Gerry the push out the door.
 

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He really has to go. He's just a relic at this point. The party can't move on, can't expand the base while he's there.

There was a deal done. Whoever killed this guy weren't part of that deal. They're subject to the same rules as anyone else.

It's honestly inconceivable that the leader of a party with an eye on getting into power could say otherwise.
Ironically Gerry Adams is probably doing more than anyone else in terms of keeping FG and FF in power forever.

His huge ego seems to prevent him from transitioning into the history books where he belongs at this stage.
 

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Well, is he right?

Does GFA allow for the investigation and prosecuting of such crimes?
 

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Well, is he right?

Does GFA allow for the investigation and prosecuting of such crimes?
Yes. And a two year jail sentence (max) for pre 1998 cases, otherwise, you do the whole stretch. The reality of it is that, largely, historical cases are being either allowed to wither on the vine, or are being actively thwarted by govt (in the case of a proposed amnesty for former soldiers, or to protect intelligence assets), or by political pressure by various parties - SF amongst them.
 

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Hasn't he got a point?

IRA personnel being jailed because of stuff that happened decades ago in a politically driven conflict is as pointless as jailing British Army personnel as a result of murders committed by them in incidents such as Bloody Sunday.
 
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So basically if you were IRA you could murder who you liked, if you were any other Irish Republican terror organisation then you can go to the slammer?
 

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So basically if you were IRA you could murder who you liked, if you were any other Irish Republican terror organisation then you can go to the slammer?
No. I think we need a truth and reconcilliation commission. Get all this stuff out in the open, then everyone walk away...
 

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So basically if you were IRA you could murder who you liked, if you were any other Irish Republican terror organisation then you can go to the slammer?
The selectively is the problem. Either pursue all activity or none. What does this achieve?
 

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The selectively is the problem. Either pursue all activity or none. What does this achieve?
Pursue all activity. The achievement is justice for those murdered and their families.
 

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He really has to go. He's just a relic at this point. The party can't move on, can't expand the base while he's there.

There was a deal done. Whoever killed this guy weren't part of that deal. They're subject to the same rules as anyone else.

It's honestly inconceivable that the leader of a party with an eye on getting into power could say otherwise.
does Mary Loo back up,she is future leader ?
 

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Pursue all activity. The achievement is justice for those murdered and their families.
Justice should be pursued and achieved for all. This particular case is been used by the political enemies of Sinn Fein, simple as!
 

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Yet another thread about SF...

Must be something on the way about FG or some of the ongoing inquiries into the garda scandals/insurance etc ...that isn't looking good...
 

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Pursue all activity. The achievement is justice for those murdered and their families.
You can't give justice to the dead because they're - well - dead.

It's a matter of balancing the needs / desires of families & the consequences of prosecution - especially one sided prosecution.

Prosecution of military personnel is highly contentious on this side of the Channel & each case leads to a media storm. In current political circumstances the government will do all in it's power to avoid controversy.
 

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Jailing IRA murderers of innocent farmer would be 'totally and absolutely counterproductive' - Adams

Jailing IRA murderers of innocent farmer would be 'totally and absolutely counterproductive' - Adams - Independent.ie

The family of Tom Oliver deserve better.

The Irish people deserve a lot better than SF.
Gerry: the peace process continues to require absolute impunity for all "republican" criminals.

How long has it been since the GFA? And how long are we going to have to put up with this nonsense?
 


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