Jeffrey Epstein is dead

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So the multimillionaire child sex trafficker has been found dead in his cell, apparently from suicide. Undoubtedly very fortunate for all the other elites including Trump and Clinton who were in his circle, who knows what dirt he may have had on them. What puzzles me is how he managed to off himself while on suicide watch after attempting to kill himself a month earlier. People who even threaten to commit suicide while in custody in the US are extremely closely monitored, stripped of anything they might use to harm themselves and sometimes even kept in physical restraints. The whole thing is very suspicious to say the least.
 


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I consider this a good result.

As far as the people that he may have associated with in the rich circles, remember Jimmy Saville and all the people that he was , unquestionably, known to have associated with.

Some things do not follow.
 

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Is he actually dead or was it just announced that he is dead?

He could assume a new identity etc considering Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton would be implicated and many more so the easiest thing would be to just kill him to be sure.

Epstein didn't have to kill himself.
Much greater names could have gone down where Epstein could have threatened people.

It's an obvious hit behind bars. A high profile situation which could have dragged down lots of other big names.

The level of treachery in the media is unbelievable. Amazing Polly exposes "a journalist" Vicky Ward as an agent of the mockingbird media. So we're talking deep rabbit hole involving Mossad etc.

 

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Hanged himself, they say. Possibly with a silk scarf.
After failing in his attempt to do it last month.
Yeah, its an adequate result. There was never going to be an entirely satisfactory end to the story of this man.
Rich jewish liberal moneygrabbing progressive corrupt elite.
 

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Could be feigned suicide. Under age honey trap to blackmail the rich and politically-connected elite.

Was clearly financed by Israel to compromise many. Never earned much at Bear Sterns. That was his cover.

By way of deception thou shalt wage war.
 

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Yeah, its an adequate result. There was never going to be an entirely satisfactory end to the story of this man.
It actually shows up the Yanks for a bunch of complete charlatans who preach democracy and justice and yet, for some as-yet-unknown reason, left a high-value prisoner unattended while on suicide watch and he amazingly ends up committing suicide.

Similar to how a "bureaucratic" error had the Supergrass Whitey Bulger "accidentally" assigned to a new cell with a notorious killer whose speciality was offing snitches.

They gouged an elderly man's eyes out. I'm not defending Bulger but what sort of system engineers the execution of prisoners that it is entrusted with?

This is only going to fuel more speculation and lunatic conspiracies.
 

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Trump and friends can breathe a bit easier, eh?
 

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Nah, if it was a hit, it was the most stupid thing anyone could have done, a Trumpian level of stupidity.

Epstein could have dragged the whole thing out for years, filing motions for suppression of evidence. Now everything the cops have got is good to go, including any evidence against any co defendants. Only Epstein could file a motion against the search warrant. Plus there are people who were scared to come forward, ex employees etc, who now don't have that hanging over them.

The fact he killed himself means there is enormous interest.

And it is most likely he did kill himself. He could not take the pressure, and the prison sentence he was going to get. Good old American incompetence took care of the rest.
 

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Trump and friends can breathe a bit easier, eh?
I don't think Trump ever went to Epstein's pleasure island, although I believe Bill Clinton was a frequent visitor.
But yeah, certain elements of the mainstream media have dug up an ancient photograph that shows Trump and Epstein in the same room at some event.
You'll see a lot of that photo over the next few days.
 

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It would have been far easier to eliminate the women he used. So on that basis Occam says no on the conspiracy angle. It is rather odd all the same.
 

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It would have been far easier to eliminate the women he used.
Not that easy. I'd say he has lost track of how many there were, and their names (if he ever knew their names)
You know how these things go... they would keep crawling out of the woodwork for years, all looking for money to keep their "revelations" quiet. Probably about 3 times as many as were actually employed by the pervert.
 

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It would have been far easier to eliminate the women he used. So on that basis Occam says no on the conspiracy angle. It is rather odd all the same.
He was in his sixties, very clearly guilty, and looking at spending the rest of his life in jail, with violent criminals all looking to kill him or at the very least spit in his soup. This after a glamourous zillionaire existence of hot and cold running teenage girls on tap, and more luxury than you can dream of.
 

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It would be nice to see some evidence in support of the claim that police may now dispense with the requirement for a warrant to search Epstein's property.

Apart from a dúirt bean liom go ndúirt bean léi tale by a journalist in a US paper I can find nothing on the subject.

The fact that US courts take search warrants a lot more seriously than our own makes me very sceptical.
 

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It would be nice to see some evidence in support of the claim that police may now dispense with the requirement for a warrant to search Epstein's property.

Apart from a dúirt bean liom go ndúirt bean léi tale by a journalist in a US paper I can find nothing on the subject.

The fact that US courts take search warrants a lot more seriously than our own makes me very sceptical.
You got that wrong. No one is saying that the police did not need a warrant to search Epstein's property now he is dead. US lawyers are saying now he is dead he cannot file a motion challenging that warrant or seek to suppress any evidence arising, and only Epstein could have done that, not co defendants. That is anyone else who enters the picture due to evidence seized under warrant. They have to suck it up.
 

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You got that wrong. No one is saying that the police did not need a warrant to search Epstein's property now he is dead. US lawyers are saying now he is dead he cannot file a motion challenging that warrant or seek to suppress any evidence arising, and only Epstein could have done that, not co defendants. That is anyone else who enters the picture due to evidence seized under warrant. They have to suck it up.
And would you have a link to a US lawyer making such a claim?
 

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Let's have a poll.

Who offed Epstein?

1. The Orange Turd/CIA.
2. The Clintons. They kill everyone.
3. Queen Liz. Andrew is her fave.
4. The ghost of Mrs Patsy Ramsay
5. Mossad. We need Jews for a really cracking thread.
 


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