Job Advert - London Police Chief - no Southern Irish need apply

Old Mr Grouser

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The present head of London's Metropolitan Police, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, is to retire and the Home Office are advertising the job vacancy.

Metropolitan Police Commissioner job advert published - BBC News

Applicants do not need to be British or to have served in a British police force.

The new commissioner will have to have had police experience, but that can be in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada or the USA.

The Irish Republic is not included in that list, so it seems that members of An Garda Siochona will not be eligible to apply.

I'm not saying that anyone in the AGS would be capable of doing the job, but if police officers from Northern Ireland, and from other English-speaking countries can apply then AGS senior officers should also have had that opportunity.

Not doing so is going against a long-standing informal agreement, that UK official bodies do not discriminate against job-applicants from the Republic.

There's an important principle at stake here, and acquiescence on this occasion could affect a great many people in the future.
 


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Southern Irish can apply if they have had police experience in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada or the USA.
 

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Southern Irish can apply if they have had police experience in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada or the USA.
Indeed.

I seem may jobs advertised these day that say experience of the Irish or British market a must. Is that discrimination?
 

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The present head of London's Metropolitan Police, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, is to retire and the Home Office are advertising the job vacancy.

Metropolitan Police Commissioner job advert published - BBC News

Applicants do not need to be British or to have served in a British police force.

The new commissioner will have to have had police experience, but that can be in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada or the USA.

The Irish Republic is not included in that list, so it seems that members of An Garda Siochona will not be eligible to apply.

I'm not saying that anyone in the AGS would be capable of doing the job, but if police officers from Northern Ireland, and from other English-speaking countries can apply then AGS senior officers should also have had that opportunity.

Not doing so is going against a long-standing informal agreement, that UK official bodies do not discriminate against job-applicants from the Republic.

There's an important principle at stake here, and acquiescence on this occasion could affect a great many people in the future.
They probably expect that the drop in pay for an Irish applicant would make the job unattractive.
 

Old Mr Grouser

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Southern Irish can apply if they have had police experience in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada or the USA.
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Good point, Oscurito, but if so it will mean that they'll be originally from Ireland; they'll have been away from the twenty-six counties long enough to have been thoroughly deOirished.
 

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Perhaps they are looking for candidates with experience of working in a larger police force?
 

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Obviously looking for English language skills...
 

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Their country, their call.
 

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Not doing so is going against a long-standing informal agreement, that UK official bodies do not discriminate against job-applicants from the Republic.
Perhaps it is something to do with the UKs imminent departure from the EU - the reality is a lot of long standing informal arrangements are going to vanish when that happens.

I'm only speculating here, but that's one thing those countries have in common other than being English speaking. Most of them are Commonwealth countries as well.
 

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Commonwealth countries mentioned. Fair enough.

Experience in the police forces of these countries is enough for an application.

What's the problem here?

Our own insular take on things is a much bigger problem IMV.
 
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Good point, Oscurito, but if so it will mean that they'll be originally from Ireland; they'll have been away from the twenty-six counties long enough to have been thoroughly deOirished.
Perhaps.....it's debatable.

I'm being a teensy bit pedantic in pointing out that the title of the thread is a teensy bit misleading.

To be honest, it looks like an oversight by some flunky. If they were to restrict it to Commonweatlh countries, it might make sense. However, including the USA where police culture is very different and also very disparate does make it look to be a mistake.

Anyway, it's no skin of my nose.
 

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Perhaps they are looking for candidates with experience of working in a larger police force?
NZ is in or around the pop of Ireland
 

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Commonwealth countries mentioned. Fair enough.

Experience in the police forces of these countries is enough for an application.

What's the problem here?

Our own insular take on things is a much bigger problem IMV.
The problem is that experience in any English speaking country is acceptable with one glaring exception.
 

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The problem is that experience in any English speaking country is acceptable with one glaring exception.
And you are wondering why ROI applicants are not mentioned?

Hmmm.

Self evident at the moment and in the last twenty years.

We need INWARD heads for our own police force now to be taken seriously by any other country.

It is that sad and serious.

They see it, we just carry on with a lot of hubris.
 

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The present head of London's Metropolitan Police, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, is to retire and the Home Office are advertising the job vacancy.

Metropolitan Police Commissioner job advert published - BBC News

Applicants do not need to be British or to have served in a British police force.

The new commissioner will have to have had police experience, but that can be in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Canada or the USA.

The Irish Republic is not included in that list, so it seems that members of An Garda Siochona will not be eligible to apply.

I'm not saying that anyone in the AGS would be capable of doing the job, but if police officers from Northern Ireland, and from other English-speaking countries can apply then AGS senior officers should also have had that opportunity.

Not doing so is going against a long-standing informal agreement, that UK official bodies do not discriminate against job-applicants from the Republic.

There's an important principle at stake here, and acquiescence on this occasion could affect a great many people in the future.
I imagine its illegal for them to exclude applicants from EU states. Probably just a badly written ad. Odd they accept US policing experience as that is a very different system from the UK or the other countries mentioned.
 


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