Jobs and do we need them?

McSlaggart

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It is a strange fact that firms use people to do tasks which could be preformed better and with greatly reduced cost by machines. It is governments who who need firms to employ workers.

With the rise of Ai and ever more complex robotics we need to think about how we adjust are values to a world which will need few people to "work".
 


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It is a strange fact that firms use people to do tasks which could be preformed better and with greatly reduced cost by machines. It is governments who who need firms to employ workers.

With the rise of Ai and ever more complex robotics we need to think about how we adjust are values to a world which will need few people to "work".
'our values to a world in which we will need fewer people to 'work"

Work has always been, at best, an imperfect means of ensuring the distribution of the Earth's goodies.

Both capitalist and former communist societies have/had it as central to their core though.

Technological advances and the concentration of resources in fewer hands than ever, bring into question the blanket acceptance of its claim on primary importance, certainly in Western societies.
 

McSlaggart

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Technological advances and the concentration of resources in fewer hands than ever, bring into question the blanket acceptance of its claim on primary importance, certainly in Western societies.
The major issue of the concentration of resources in fewer hands has not been address by any major government. We should not allow a world in which we have a few super rich and the rest unemployed "proletarian" or as Orwell said "prole".
 

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It is a strange fact that firms use people to do tasks which could be preformed better and with greatly reduced cost by machines. It is governments who who need firms to employ workers.

With the rise of Ai and ever more complex robotics we need to think about how we adjust are values to a world which will need few people to "work".
I think people under-estimate our ability to create pointless work for ourselves. Just look at the financial services - millions employed to move largely imaginary e-funds.
 

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It is a strange fact that firms use people to do tasks which could be preformed better and with greatly reduced cost by machines. It is governments who who need firms to employ workers.

With the rise of Ai and ever more complex robotics we need to think about how we adjust are values to a world which will need few people to "work".
It will self regulate.

Corporations will always needs humans/buyers to purchase their products and services.

I doubt they'll want to kill off demand. Self defeating.

As an aside, robots will need to be taxed they same way as humans in the near future to offset the reduction in government tax income.

Needs to be happening now IMO.
 
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PC Principle

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I think people under-estimate our ability to create pointless work for ourselves. Just look at the financial services - millions employed to move largely imaginary e-funds.
Largely driven by bureaucracy. Its not all wasteful.
 

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The major issue of the concentration of resources in fewer hands has not been address by any major government. We should not allow a world in which we have a few super rich and the rest unemployed "proletarian" or as Orwell said "prole".
So you have a proposal then?
 


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