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Joe Biden v Donald Trump, POTUS election 2020...which ould fella wins?


A Voice

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Theres a few good candidates in there but they can't win in a good economy. Of the 4 sitting presidents voted out of office in the last 100 years, all 4 were voted out due to the state of the economy.
I don't think that was the reason Bush 41 lost. Perot getting a huge 3rd party vote split the GOP vote and let Clinton in. Economy was alright in '92.
 

The Nal

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I don't think that was the reason Bush 41 lost. Perot getting a huge 3rd party vote split the GOP vote and let Clinton in. Economy was alright in '92.
Nah there was a fairly big recession leading into the 92 election.

It was a big reason. "No new taxes" and then he brought in new taxes. He won a war and got voted out!

Perot nicked a good few votes from him though yeah. But not as many as people think.
 

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Nah there was a fairly big recession leading into the 92 election.

It was a big reason. "No new taxes" and then he brought in new taxes. He won a war and got voted out!

Perot nicked a good few votes from him though yeah. But not as many as people think.
Most post election stats show that as many Perot voters would otherwise have voted for Clinton as for Bush.
 

A Voice

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Nah there was a fairly big recession leading into the 92 election.

It was a big reason. "No new taxes" and then he brought in new taxes. He won a war and got voted out!

Perot nicked a good few votes from him though yeah. But not as many as people think.
True. I didn't think the recession was all that big.

Most post election stats show that as many Perot voters would otherwise have voted for Clinton as for Bush.
True.
 

GabhaDubh

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The Hill raises a interesting point, why isn’t President Obama coming to the defense of his Vice President Biden, they did spend a lot of time together.
 

Jack Walsh

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The Hill raises a interesting point, why isn’t President Obama coming to the defense of his Vice President Biden, they did spend a lot of time together.
Because he is smart, disciplined and can measure a situation astutely.
And also, because Biden would not want him intervening, it would just risk escalating.

These are two vastly experienced politicians who can read a situation, they wont recklessly charge on to twitter and start screaming insults, crude nicknames and crass accusations at someone who criticises them
 

StirCharles

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Because he is smart, disciplined and can measure a situation astutely.
And also, because Biden would not want him intervening, it would just risk escalating.

These are two vastly experienced politicians who can read a situation, they wont recklessly charge on to twitter and start screaming insults, crude nicknames and crass accusations at someone who criticises them
As is most often the case, Jack is dribbling.
Obama will not weigh in unless forced too because in a slagging match, the smarter Trump would wipe the floor with him.
Plus, he does not wish to see a democrat win as it would preclude Manchelle running in 2024. Try a little harder Jack.
 
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