John Bruton urges "forgiveness" for those who destroyed the economy



james toney

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A Parasite that couldn't care less about those that will lose their pension money.
 

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Here's a deal John.....I'll apply the same level of forgiveness to Bertie/Biffo and their cronies to the level of forgiveness that was applied to our debts..hows that?
 

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Bruton: part-time consultant....

....full time bollox
 

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Bruton didn't mention his confusion of allegiances when being sworn in as a Minister, I take it?
 

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Bruton is just doing the same thing that Lenihan did when Lenihan said 'we all partied', of the overblown economy of the mid noughties. That was his explanation for lumping private bank debts onto the burden of the private taxpayer.

Bruton is using catholic terminology such as 'forgiveness' in the same way Lenihan pushed the catholic guilt button on a people mentally prepared to be guilty for something they never did.

Whenever you get an irish politician pulling that half-priest stunt it means they are taking the piss out of the electorate and treating them like malleable peasants.
 

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As a matter of interest, how many pensions does Sir John have and how much?
 

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I'd be more interested in any pensions he might have we don't know about at this stage. We must be one of the few people in the world generous enough at this point to give people with uncertain loyalties a Minister's pension.

Although Bruton soft-shoed all that when he was a Minister and TD and only became brave enough for his current mode when he had the pensions secured.
 

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Certainly one of the few countries where retired politicians get to assume a self-described moral bishopric. Usually detailing a hitherto unsuspected interest in ethics.
 

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Keep quiet as we make the laws and give ourselves pay rises and huge pensions.

 

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Keep quiet as we make the laws and give ourselves pay rises and huge pensions.

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I'm not by any means advocating this, but it amazed me at the time how the ideologues in the likes of CIRA and RIRA weren't pushing for the clear 1916 moment which was in the offing at the time.
Get the lads to take a morning off from their activities and Michael Collins' 12 apostle style wipe some of the prominent ladeens behind the economic destruction of the country out!
What other way in terms of gaining public support, was available to these terrible beauties?
 

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John Bruton begging pardon for Ahern and McCreevy. Reminds me of the list of Laureates on Brendan Halligan's Institute for International and European Affairs which to my memory included Ahern, McCreevy and a significant element of Bruton in it.

I see Ruairi Quinn is Chairman and a noted socialist as I'm sure Brendan Halligan, Labour Party National Co-ordinator would be. Perched alongside John Bruton whose interest in international affairs seems to extend as far as a longing for Dorset. Pat Cox, Brian Cowen, Ahern, McCreevy. .

Someone call Rentokil. There's a nest. The Board | IIEA

'Company Secretary: John Redmond

Treasurer: Brendan Butler

Fellows: Tony Brown, Pat Cox, Marie Cross, Helen Donoghue, Paul Gallagher, Eamon Gilmore, Katherine Meenan, Pádraig Murphy

Comité d’Honneur: Enda Kenny, John Bruton, David Byrne, Brian Cowen, Pat Cox, Ray MacSharry, Charles McCreevy, Michael O’Kennedy, Mary Robinson, Mary McAleese, Bertie Ahern and Maire Geoghegan Quinn

Honorary Life Members: Adrian Burke, Professor Patrick Keatinge, Derry O‘Hegarty, Dr Con Power, Dr David Williamson and Geraldine Byrne Nason

Looks more like a gangster's hideout than a think-tank. Don't think I've ever seen a collection of socialists and money-whores in one place like this one.
 

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The best bit is they are all listed under 'Governance'. That's pretty ****ing ironic.
 

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John Bruton begging pardon for Ahern and McCreevy. Reminds me of the list of Laureates on Brendan Halligan's Institute for International and European Affairs which to my memory included Ahern, McCreevy and a significant element of Bruton in it.

I see Ruairi Quinn, Chairman and noted socialist as I'm sure Brendan Halligan, Labour Party National Co-ordinator would be. Perched alongside John Bruton whose interest in international affairs seems to extend as far as a longing for Dorset. Pat Cox, Brian Cowen, Ahern, McCreevy. .

Someone call Rentokil. There's a nest. The Board | IIEA

'Company Secretary: John Redmond

Treasurer: Brendan Butler

Fellows: Tony Brown, Pat Cox, Marie Cross, Helen Donoghue, Paul Gallagher, Eamon Gilmore, Katherine Meenan, Pádraig Murphy

Comité d’Honneur: Enda Kenny, John Bruton, David Byrne, Brian Cowen, Pat Cox, Ray MacSharry, Charles McCreevy, Michael O’Kennedy, Mary Robinson, Mary McAleese, Bertie Ahern and Maire Geoghegan Quinn

Honorary Life Members: Adrian Burke, Professor Patrick Keatinge, Derry O‘Hegarty, Dr Con Power, Dr David Williamson and Geraldine Byrne Nason

Looks more like a gangster's hideout than a think-tank.
A speakeasy.
 

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Pipeline open to Brussels with all the mainstream parties represented and a few stalwarts from the appointment sector. There are times with Brendan Halligan and looking at his position regarding shareholdings and directorships in Renewable Energy projects I noticed back about ten years ago that it occurs to me he is a strange blend of Victorian era speculator and socialist.

When I saw the directorships and shareholdings I thought to myself 'aha,' I thought, 'Brendan is positioning the pinshin to take advantage of some upcoming support for the renewable energy sector in the legislative works'. But then I thought 'no, that would imply that Brendan was acting on information received and that would be wrong'.

I suppose he could have got lucky with it the same way the Victorian era speculators close to politics did, realising that with a lot of money to be spent on expanding the national railway network under steam buying up scrubland in corridors between cities where train rails would be most advantageously placed would be a decent bit of landbanking with a fairly short flip to new rail companies.
 

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John Bruton begging pardon for Ahern and McCreevy. Reminds me of the list of Laureates on Brendan Halligan's Institute for International and European Affairs which to my memory included Ahern, McCreevy and a significant element of Bruton in it.

I see Ruairi Quinn is Chairman and a noted socialist as I'm sure Brendan Halligan, Labour Party National Co-ordinator would be. Perched alongside John Bruton whose interest in international affairs seems to extend as far as a longing for Dorset. Pat Cox, Brian Cowen, Ahern, McCreevy. .

Someone call Rentokil. There's a nest. The Board | IIEA

'Company Secretary: John Redmond

Treasurer: Brendan Butler

Fellows: Tony Brown, Pat Cox, Marie Cross, Helen Donoghue, Paul Gallagher, Eamon Gilmore, Katherine Meenan, Pádraig Murphy

Comité d’Honneur: Enda Kenny, John Bruton, David Byrne, Brian Cowen, Pat Cox, Ray MacSharry, Charles McCreevy, Michael O’Kennedy, Mary Robinson, Mary McAleese, Bertie Ahern and Maire Geoghegan Quinn

Honorary Life Members: Adrian Burke, Professor Patrick Keatinge, Derry O‘Hegarty, Dr Con Power, Dr David Williamson and Geraldine Byrne Nason

Looks more like a gangster's hideout than a think-tank. Don't think I've ever seen a collection of socialists and money-whores in one place like this one.
A fair few of those surnames seem to crop up under the "Staff" & "Research staff" headings. Along with another illustrious (& well connected) surname or two.
 

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I'm not by any means advocating this, but it amazed me at the time how the ideologues in the likes of CIRA and RIRA weren't pushing for the clear 1916 moment which was in the offing at the time.
Get the lads to take a morning off from their activities and Michael Collins' 12 apostle style wipe some of the prominent ladeens behind the economic destruction of the country out!
What other way in terms of gaining public support, was available to these terrible beauties?
At the time I had similar feelings.
We still had dissidents banging on about the Brits like broken records, and targeting members of the PSNI. Meanwhile, not a peep out of them about the national apocalypse south of the border.
 

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At the time I had similar feelings.
We still had dissidents banging on about the Brits like broken records, and targeting members of the PSNI. Meanwhile, not a peep out of them about the national apocalypse south of the border.
I think they learned from the Stickies and not make the same mistakes, mind you some ex stickies have lovely pensions and have ridden out of Dodge intact!

CIRA, RIRA, BUILE BUILE et Al would have learned not to get deflected from the national question and the armed struggle.
They are also massive engaged in their own special brand of am, 'fundraising'!
 

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If you wanted to live safe and snug in the Union, where would you move to? Scotland? Looking a bit iffy. Northern Ireland. Also looking a bit iffy vis the Union. Wales?

Johnson & Co managed to revive Welsh nationalism as well while they were Unchaining Bwitain. I can only come to the conclusion that Boris Johnson and the ERG are probably one of the few lobbies to have done more damage to the Union than the Duke of York.
 


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