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John Delaney, his salary, and the media's role in reporting 'facts'


ShoutingIsLeadership

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First of all, this is not in the sports forum, as it is just as much about reporting standards in the media in general, as it is about the FAI.

A headline on today's RTE website says:

FAI Chief Executive John Delaney admits to turning down a job three times his current salary

When one reads the story, is says (my bold)

FAI chief executive John Delaney has defended his current salary, while also stating he turned down a job that would have tripled what he now earns.

Delaney, who has presided over stringent cutbacks which have affected even Republic of Ireland boss Giovanni Trapattoni and his coaching staff, reportedly earns around €340,000 a year.

However, he has revealed he could have left for a better-paid post and believes his wage is commensurate with the FAI's income, with the country still in the grip of a difficult economic situation.

Delaney told Sky Sports News: "I was offered a job three times the salary that I'm currently on, and that's a fact.

"I didn't take the job, I didn't want the job. I'm very happy in this job.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/cycling/2013/0320/377483-delaney-reveals-lucrative-job-offer/

So, far from Delaney admitting anything about being offered a new job, all he has done is CLAIM he got offered a different job.

At no point has the report pointed this out, yet the message from RTE is loud and clear, whether intended or not: 'John Delaney is worth it'.

Why has nobody asked him for proof of these claims, and if they are not forthcoming, why not run the story as 'John Delaney claims he was offered job with a salary three times greater than his current salary, but failed to provide proof of such claims, when asked to do so'?

This isn't solely about RTE. The Irish Independent, while not using the word 'admit', says that Delaney 'revealed he could have left'.

John Delaney: I was offered a job on three times current salary - Independent.ie


I'm sure there will be other examples in the media. The word 'admit' is regularly used in radio bulletins about all sorts of stories, with the Newstalk sports department being particular offenders.

If the media can't even challenge the head of a sports organisation which has clearly made a total mess of its finances over the years, then what hope have we that they will ask the right questions of our politicians?

EDIT: The above RTE link no longer works, yet the story, with an amended headline is on the site. That headline now says 'FAI chief executive John Delaney says he turned down a job which paid three times his current salary' It seems very unusual to change the url, rather than just update the current url...perhaps they've been reading P.ie :)

New link: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/international/2013/0320/377483-delaney-reveals-lucrative-job-offer/
 
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Hewson

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Delaney is a running joke. His salary would be justified if the Irish team had a great record of success on the pitch and soccer was our national sport. As it is we do just about okay in the qualification stakes and then fizzle out with the other also-rans.

Like a lot of people in similar positions in Ireland, Delaney thinks he's worth more than he actually is. 200k would be overly generous for his post.

His mentality is endemic in this country, bankers being the most obvious example.

As for his claim of turning down three times his salary in another post, that's just plain laughable. Let's hear names and times, otherwise stop taking the mick.
 

flavirostris

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Who offered Delaney a million a year
 

Ryan Tubbs

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It galls me to be quoting the Sunday Independent, but Declan Lynch had an excellent piece a couple of months ago on the sheer incompetence that pervades the RTÉ Sport's section. His contention was the RTE should worry gravely about its inability to get the little things right, before devoting time worrying about bigger disasters such as the Fr. Reynolds fiasco.

Declan Lynch: The little mistakes are no small matter - Independent.ie

So it does matter a great deal when we hear a result on RTE radio or television, and instinctively we feel the need to visit the BBC website just to check it out, just to be sure -- personally, the defining moment was when the RTE TV lunchtime news told us that the new world snooker champion John Higgins is the son of Alex "Hurricane" Higgins.
There are countless little examples of this on RTE sport on a relatively regular basis. They routinely make errors which would cause part-time sports hacks for local newspapers to die of shame. Sports journos are, by their nature, obsessive and encyclopedic. Not in RTE it would seem.
 

Gracchus

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Delaney is one of our betters in Ireland, and that group of people, do not tell lies, therefore they should not be questioned. This is the view of RTE.

Delaney should not be payed anymore than the highest paid footballer in the League of Ireland.
 

Levellers

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Delaney is a right Pinocchio.

I for one do not believe a word out of his mouth.
 
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leftsoc

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Delaney is a running joke. His salary would be justified if the Irish team had a great record of success on the pitch and soccer was our national sport. As it is we do just about okay in the qualification stakes and then fizzle out with the other also-rans.

Like a lot of people in similar positions in Ireland, Delaney thinks he's worth more than he actually is. 200k would be overly generous for his post.

His mentality is endemic in this country, bankers being the most obvious example.

As for his claim of turning down three times his salary in another post, that's just plain laughable. Let's hear names and times, otherwise stop taking the mick.
The team's success would not justify the chief executive's salary. What has the CEO of the FAI to do with it? He appointed Staunton!

There are two ways of looking at salaries. One is what does this person morally deserve for doing this job? On that criterion a nurse would get more than she does for her job and the CEO of the FAI would get very very little, since it is a fun job that many people would do for nothing if they had independent means.

The other way is what would the market demand to get someone like the present incumbent? again becaus ethe job is fun, there would be a queue of applicants at almost any wage, and most bwould be as good/bad as Delaney. The idea that Delaney should get even 100K is laughable on either criterion.

Rdiculous money was paid to the CEO of the FAI when it was first suggested that an IT millionaire be given the job. Then that IT millionaire was shafted in favour of Delaney and the ridiclous IT bubble salary was retained.

We need to know who offered Delaney 1M . If anyone did, the Chairman should taken out and shot. Shareholders should do the shooting.

The libel laws are the reason 'admits' was used instead of the more accurate 'claims'. This is a mad country and the libel laws are the maddest thing about it.
 

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All the same though the lad has done well. I remember standing behind him in Kilcohan Park back in those halcyon day's half way through the match he looked up at his father and said what's going on Dad.
More like ''why are you wearing such a long coat ,with so many pockets in it ,on such a sunny day,Dad?''
 

gerhard dengler

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I would like to see proof of John Delaney having been offered a higher salary than the one he gets at the FAI.

The sports journalists here need to start asking some hard questions if they disagree with the remuneration package of sports administrators.
In other words if journalists think that Delaney's FAI remuneration package is too high, given the level of "success" that the FAI has delivered under his stewardship, then they
need to start ascertaining the facts.

If Delaney claims that he has been offered better remunerated jobs, journalists need to ask Delaney.
If Delaney can provide proof to a journalist, the journalist needs to report it.
If Delaney can't provide proof to a journalist, the journalist needs to report it.
 

skiii

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I would like to see proof of John Delaney having been offered a higher salary than the one he gets at the FAI.

The sports journalists here need to start asking some hard questions if they disagree with the remuneration package of sports administrators.
In other words if journalists think that Delaney's FAI remuneration package is too high, given the level of "success" that the FAI has delivered under his stewardship, then they
need to start ascertaining the facts.

If Delaney claims that he has been offered better remunerated jobs, journalists need to ask Delaney.
If Delaney can provide proof to a journalist, the journalist needs to report it.
If Delaney can't provide proof to a journalist, the journalist needs to report it.
I'm sure none of us would like to stand in the man's way. To hell with sacrifice,for his own good he has to go.
 

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Its gas

All Ireland Hurling Replay generated €2.8m for the GAA with reduced prices

How much did the soccer match v Germany generate ?

Scandalous amounts of money paid to Trap, Delaney etc...but the money is there !!!!
 

Ryan Tubbs

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This is the same crap that Duffy, Finucane etc trot out. "Pay us mega-bucks, or we'll walk to the BBC or TV3" - as if the BBC would want these talentless cretins, and as if TV3 would have the sort of cash to match even half of their current salaries.
 

Astral Peaks

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Delaney is a running joke. His salary would be justified if the Irish team had a great record of success on the pitch and soccer was our national sport. As it is we do just about okay in the qualification stakes and then fizzle out with the other also-rans.

Like a lot of people in similar positions in Ireland, Delaney thinks he's worth more than he actually is. 200k would be overly generous for his post.

His mentality is endemic in this country, bankers being the most obvious example.

As for his claim of turning down three times his salary in another post, that's just plain laughable. Let's hear names and times, otherwise stop taking the mick.
I agree with you, while saying that the CEO role in the FAI is about more than just the performance of the national tem. But those other tasks have been fairly poorly carried out by Delaney, whose efforts seem mostly to concentrate on copperfastening his grip on those famous "levers of power", so beloved of De Valera.

Meanwhile, could any GAA head surmise what Duffy's salary is in the equivalent role in the GAA?

This info from Wiki:

Two discrete operating units oversee the business of Gaelic Games in Ireland, and throughout the world. In addition to the Central Council or Árd Comhairle, whose activities are tax-exempt, the Árd Comhairle owns and controls 100% of Páirc an Chrocaigh Teoranta (PACT), a limited company. Formed initially to protect the Association in the event of liability arising from accidents in the stadium, the GAA's corporate entity PACT has since evolved into a significant profIt centre with five fully owned subsidiaries:

  • Gambetto Ltd.
  • Lauris Ltd.
  • Brindare Ltd.
  • Croke Park Motors Ltd.
  • Mercury Investments Ltd.
Known jointly as "the Croke Park Group of Companies", PACT and its subsidiaries reported turnover of €36,847,590 for financial year 2010, with stated gross profit of €30,991,913.
The Árd Comhairle separately declared revenues of €58,015,244 for fiscal year 2010 with gross profit of €47,512,110. (The Árd Comhairle paid out €3,660,729 in salaries and pensions in 2010; PACT paid out €1,882,500 to 28 corporate employees and three groundsmen.)
 
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