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John McGuinness - Poacher turned gamekeeper.

DCon

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I've worked it out that if Andrew McGuinness worked an extra 16½ hours a week in overtime, say from 6 pm until around 9:20 pm, for a period of about 46 weeks, then he could certainly have ratcheted up overtime payments of €30k or more.

As Sync pointed out, that means that he would have had to work a 12-hour day, 5-days a week, and for 46 weeks of the year.


Isn't that just some dedication for you. petunia


What I'd love to know is, when did he get time to perform his duties as an elected representative of both Kilkenny County Council and Kilkenny Borough Council?

700,000 euros for Kilkenny councillors’ salaries, expenses in 2010 | Kilkenny People | Published on 27/10/2011
Maybe he met the Old man in the Dail bar every evening to discuss the events of the day.

That's work, right?
 


devnull

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... that's why the Flutered Garglers tried to shout down him & Mary Lou ...
Is that Mary Lou of
the Serial Fraudsters,
the Sociopaths' Favourite,
the Serious Felons,
or the Sectarian Formenters?

Playing stupid games with other parties' acronyms would work better if your own party didn't also have one.
 

stanley

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Different faces, Same cronyism.

Could very well be the donkey is a piebald, 2 colours but the same animal.

McG has been stalling on the Fas report now for a long time, will he crap all over former colleagues, he is totally unproven.
 

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Far from being incompetent, Donnelly has FG/LP rumbled; that's why the Flutered Garglers tried to shout down him & Mary Lou on the night of the "deal" which turned the €30 billion Anglo debt into greater sovereign debt.

Enough of the FF & FG nepotism.
Donnelly must be hitting close to the facts when Noonan lost the head,
The senior wise old man status disappeared that night, Let himself down very easily.
 

hiding behind a poster

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Donnelly must be hitting close to the facts that when Noonan lost the head,
Lost the senior wise old man status that night, Let himself down very easily.
Noonan didn't lose the head. Donnelly was misrepresenting every aspect of the issue being discussed, and Noonan pointed this out.
 

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McGuinness is the epitomy of the cute hoor politican.

During the last government - where he was a minister - he saw which way the wind was blowing regarding FF and began calling for a change of direction without ever really opposing FF policy. He did this to protect his own arse come election time.

He then began to criticise so called high pay in the public sector (again populist) whilst being on a wage of 100k, claiming expenses to beat the band in addition to expenses associated with his chairmanship of the PAC committee.

A chancer.
 

toyoto

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I realy think is a witch hunt by the media on john mc Guinness and his son ,and it helps to sell news papers of course,and I think he has ability to defend himself and both his father (mj mc Guinness rip) and his son(Andrew) have toped the poll over the years in all elections that they stood in over 50 years,so they must be doing someting right!
 
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turdsl

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Lies.Bluff, deceit, Gombeenism, Cronyism and as Roisin Shortall said stroke politics are all still there.Just a few weeks ago
we saw the tape of Mr Kenny on Prime Time during the election campaign."This is a brilliant opportrunity to fix
what is wrong with this country,Cronyism and Collusion over the last 14 year." Talk is just as cheap with those guys.
 

mr. jings

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That's fine, but you cited the stories about McGuinness as evidence that nothing has changed - I'm reminding you that it happened under the LAST government.
I get where you're coming from, but I have yet to see anything to demonstrate a sea change in attitudes towards accountability and responsibility from the current government. Nor have they taken a hardy willow broom to sweeping out cronyism in appointments to State agencies/authorities, or preferential parish pump allocation of the State's strained resources. Being by no means quite as bad as the last shower is not quite enough of a standard to aspire to.
 

carlovian

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I realy think is a witch hunt by the media on john mc Guinness and his son ,and it helps to sell news papers of course,and I think he has ability to defend himself and both his father (mj mc Guinness rip) and his son(Andrew) have toped the poll over the years in all elections that they stood in over 50 years,so they must be doing someting right!
Welcome to politics.ie Andrew.

Thank you for taking the overtime to join us.
 

CarnivalOfAction

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Welcome to politics.ie Andrew.

Thank you for taking the overtime to join us.
It's not only Andrew that has his snout in the taxpayers' trough. Another FFailure, David Andrews, is trousering a huge pension while shilling for a repressive dictatorship.

This is a Feckn Gem:

Bahrain News Agency | Bahrain and Ireland Discuss Cooperation

"Human Rights and Social Development Ministry Undersecretary Said Mohammed Al-Faihani today received former Irish Foreign Minister David Andrews. He stressed strong bilateral cooperation, outlining Bahrain's human rights strides in the prosperous era of His Majesty King Hamad bin Isa Al-Khalifa.
Mr. Al-Faihani stressed the ministry's resolve to promote the concepts of human rights.

He outlined efforts to enhance social awareness through cultural programmes, benefitting from the new media means.

He cited in particular the "One Unity" campaign aimed at cementing national unity.

In this same regard, he reaffirmed Bahrain's resolve to meet its obligations and commit to the recommendations cited in the Bahrain Independent Commission of Inquiry (BICI) Report.

The two sides discussed cooperation in promoting human rights to benefit from the Irish experience in bolstering national unity and running the compensation fund.

The Irish minister hailed Bahrain's resolve to turn the page of the regrettable events
, describing the establishment of the inquiry commission as a bold royal initiative. "
 

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Is that Mary Lou of
the Serial Fraudsters,
the Sociopaths' Favourite,
the Serious Felons,
or the Sectarian Formenters?

Playing stupid games with other parties' acronyms would work better if your own party didn't also have one.
But they were Flutered. Coz they had been Gargling. That's why Big G advised the CC to close the Dáil bar to stop all the Flappin & Gulderin.
 

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Far from being incompetent, Donnelly has FG/LP rumbled;
Donnelly is a gross incompetent. Fionnán Sheahan called him on it on Vincent Browne about 8 weeks ago. Worth looking back at it.

The guy is a charlatan and hasn't a clue of the simplistic nonsense he trots out as quick-fix easy solutions to our problems.
 

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His 30k overtime per annum is certainly not unreasonable.

Ireland has the second shortest average working week in Europe.

A 42 salary works out at about 23 per hour based on a 35 hour working week (5 days of 9am to 5pm less an hour for lunch).
Overtime can be assumed at a rate of 1.5x implies an overtime wage of 34.62 p.h.
This works out at 866 overtime hours per year.
Assuming a 50 week working year he would have to work 17.5 hrs over and above his regular working week.

This would equate to about 3.5hrs per day which could be achieved through starting at 8am, only taking a 0.5hr lunch break and finishing at 7pm.

It only totals 52.5 working hours per week. Most people I know would work somewhere close to that anyway.

Furthermore, you could easily assume higher overtime rates for weekend work which would significantly reduce the number of hours he required to meet this number.
 

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His 30k overtime per annum is certainly not unreasonable.

Ireland has the second shortest average working week in Europe.

A 42 salary works out at about 23 per hour based on a 35 hour working week (5 days of 9am to 5pm less an hour for lunch).
Overtime can be assumed at a rate of 1.5x implies an overtime wage of 34.62 p.h.
This works out at 866 overtime hours per year.
Assuming a 50 week working year he would have to work 17.5 hrs over and above his regular working week.

This would equate to about 3.5hrs per day which could be achieved through starting at 8am, only taking a 0.5hr lunch break and finishing at 7pm.

It only totals 52.5 working hours per week. Most people I know would work somewhere close to that anyway.

Furthermore, you could easily assume higher overtime rates for weekend work which would significantly reduce the number of hours he required to meet this number.
Are you the same Andycap that's calling bus drivers lazy bastards and scum?
 

CarnivalOfAction

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Donnelly is a gross incompetent. Fionnán Sheahan called him on it on Vincent Browne about 8 weeks ago. Worth looking back at it.

The guy is a charlatan and hasn't a clue of the simplistic nonsense he trots out as quick-fix easy solutions to our problems.
Saw Beaker & Donnelly on VinB but couldn't have been the same one. VB challenged FS to debate with SD but he FFailed to accept.

Of course FG thinks anyone, including Nobel prize-winning economists, who think banksterity for the disabled & vulnerable with €843,000pa for FFailed banksters, is working is "a gross incompetent."

Free GP care not a priority for austerity sadists - Political News | Irish & International Politics | The Irish Times - Tue, May 14, 2013

"The total cluelessness of the bunch of eejits running this country is truly impressive. This is one good example, others include; upward only rents that have decimated retail, lack of countrywide broadband, education cuts that hurt human capital, no jobs strategy apart from 40 odd pages of waffle about a jobs strategy, no capital investment, selling off state assets...the list goes on and on.

We're doomed. This lot will bankrupt the country, retire on huge pensions and leave the mess for someone else."
 
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