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John Tierney appointed Managing Director of Irish Water,


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Mods, I am not sure if this is the right place for this, my reasoning is that water charges will have a negative impact on the already limited spending power of the population and as a result reduce spending in the local economy. However, if you feel it should be posted elsewhere please move it.

According to the Irish Times, Dublin city manager to head Irish Water - The Irish Times - Tue, Jan 29, 2013
John Tierney, currently Dublin City Manager has been appointed MD of Irish Water, this is the man who presided over the omnishambles of the "disposal" of the Dublin City waste collection to Greyhound. The actual details of this "disposal" remain shrouded in mystery and Tierney has consistently refused to clarify the matter. In the course of this debacle E&Y were hired at a cost of €250,000+ to do "due diligence" but failed to discover that Greyhound had had some "difficulties" with regards to invoicing during their contract with Irish Rail until Shane Ross called the powers that be in DCC.

Shane Ross: Stench as rubbish firm wins - Shane Ross, Columnists - Independent.ie

Irish Times http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...311853475.html

At a Special Meeting of DCC in January 2012, the elected representatives passed the following motion

“The elected members of Dublin City Council again call on the City Manager to make available to the members the service level agreement and the commercial terms agreed with Greyhound. The Manager should advise what payment
Greyhound made to DCC for the business and/or how much DCC is paying Greyhound to fulfil the service”.
and the in the minutes of the Special Meeting of DCC in January 2012 http://www.dublincity.ie/YourCouncil...001 2012.pdf

Tierney refused to provide the information and, to the best of my knowledge this information has never been provided to the elected representatives.

So what else has he to qualify him for the Irish Water job?

According to the IT article

"Mr Tierney has spent over 35 years in local government, having worked in nine different local authorities across the country.

“In his last three jobs as manager in Dublin City, Fingal and Galway City, he (John) has been heavily involved in the planning and delivery of major water services programmes,” Bord Gáis chairwoman Rose Hynes said.

“He has also prioritised water services under Dublin City Council’s smart city programme,” she added.
"

I have no idea what " prioritised water services under Dublin City Council’s smart city programme" means but water is still being lost through leaks and it can take days for a reported leak to be dealt with.

Was this job advertised and what is the salary? Tierney is currently on just under €200,000 + a variety of jollies, junkets and expenses. If there were other applicants, I wonder how many there were and how many had relevant experience other than being an entrenched public sector apparatchik.

Next question - who will get the DCC Manager's job.
 

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A serving city or county manager, its the way the system works.:lol:
Like the cycling Taliban guy who went from DCC to Dun Laoghaire and in his war on motorists is destroying what few business are left in Dun Laoghaire.

Edit: It is long past time that candidates with real, relevant qualification were appointed to these positions, on fixed term contracts, with a salary of no more than €60k and performance related bonus. They should be required to live within the city that they are managing and failure to meet all of the performance measures would result in non-renewal of contract with no pay-offs, etc.

I wonder how much Tierney's pay off will be and what sort of pension contributions have been made on his behalf over the years.
 

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Doesn't need to be - he's part of the permanent govt.:lol:
Indeed

"Mr Tierney has spent over 35 years in local government, having worked in nine different local authorities across the country.

“In his last three jobs as manager in Dublin City, Fingal and Galway City,
 

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Congratulations to John Tierney on his appointment. he is a decent man working in a dysfunctional system.
 

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Congratulations to John Tierney on his appointment. he is a decent man working in a dysfunctional system.
You seem to know him. Can you ask him how he came to the decision about greyhound? City or county managers should be voted on by the locals. These people hold all the power now and are held accountable to no one.
 

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Another waste of tax payers money, more richer troughers on the bandwagon, all is progressing well.........
 

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You seem to know him. Can you ask him how he came to the decision about greyhound? City or county managers should be voted on by the locals. These people hold all the power now and are held accountable to no one.
He made his decision because the anti democrats in the Campaign against paying anything for anything managed to have the power on this matter removed from Councillors - why thank you Joe, Rich Boy and SF/PBP/ULA etc etc etc,
 

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No doubt we can expect more waste of taxpayers' money

Dublin City Council criticised over Poolbeg costs - RTÉ News

An audit of the Poolbeg Incinerator project has criticised Dublin City Council for spiralling costs now totalling over €80 million.

The report from the local government auditor found that project management was "weak" and "not adequate".

City Manager John Tierney has apologised for the shortcomings.


However, councillors called for an end to the project and criticised council management for the mismanagement of public funds.

The review of expenditure by the local government auditor report pointed out that consultants costs spiralled from original contract for €8m to over €24m.

This included public relations costs of €3m.

It found that the consultant’s contract breached procedure guidelines by not being reviewed in 2005 and there was a lack of financial records available and no minutes of meetings of the project management board.

The review has requested a detailed report on why the construction cost of new premises for Westway Terminals Hibernian doubled from €11m to €22m.

It was part of a deal to purchase land needed for the incinerator but the council relied on reports from the company's consultants on the relocation cost.

The total cost of the deal including the land purchase and other costs was over €31m.

Fine Gael councillor Gerry Breen compared the controversy to the Greyhound contract and said council management seemed incapable of public procurement.

Fianna Fáil councillor Mary Fitzpatrick called for an independent inquiry, while Labour councillor Dermot Lacey said the Poolbeg project should be scrapped.

Mr Tierney said the reason for the increased costs was the amount of "obstacles, complaints and queries" that have arisen in relation to Poolbeg.

He said the lack of documentation has been rectified and every invoice since 1981 is now being examined.

A special audit meeting of the council will be held on 24 January.


Now Breen has some neck as he voted in favour of privatization and was very quiet at the Special meeting of the council.

Tierney's claim that the" reason for the increased costs was the amount of "obstacles, complaints and queries" that have arisen in relation to Poolbeg", he is not keen on interference from citizens and elected representatives.

Is it remotely credible that there are no other, more suitably qualified candidates for both the Irish Water and DCC jobs?
 

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Mods, I am not sure if this is the right place for this, my reasoning is that water charges will have a negative impact on the already limited spending power of the population and as a result reduce spending in the local economy. However, if you feel it should be posted elsewhere please move it.

According to the Irish Times, Dublin city manager to head Irish Water - The Irish Times - Tue, Jan 29, 2013
John Tierney, currently Dublin City Manager has been appointed MD of Irish Water, this is the man who presided over the omnishambles of the "disposal" of the Dublin City waste collection to Greyhound. The actual details of this "disposal" remain shrouded in mystery and Tierney has consistently refused to clarify the matter. In the course of this debacle E&Y were hired at a cost of €250,000+ to do "due diligence" but failed to discover that Greyhound had had some "difficulties" with regards to invoicing during their contract with Irish Rail until Shane Ross called the powers that be in DCC.

Shane Ross: Stench as rubbish firm wins - Shane Ross, Columnists - Independent.ie

Irish Times http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...311853475.html

At a Special Meeting of DCC in January 2012, the elected representatives passed the following motion

“The elected members of Dublin City Council again call on the City Manager to make available to the members the service level agreement and the commercial terms agreed with Greyhound. The Manager should advise what payment
Greyhound made to DCC for the business and/or how much DCC is paying Greyhound to fulfil the service”.
and the in the minutes of the Special Meeting of DCC in January 2012 http://www.dublincity.ie/YourCouncil...001 2012.pdf

Tierney refused to provide the information and, to the best of my knowledge this information has never been provided to the elected representatives.

So what else has he to qualify him for the Irish Water job?

According to the IT article

"Mr Tierney has spent over 35 years in local government, having worked in nine different local authorities across the country.

“In his last three jobs as manager in Dublin City, Fingal and Galway City, he (John) has been heavily involved in the planning and delivery of major water services programmes,” Bord Gáis chairwoman Rose Hynes said.

“He has also prioritised water services under Dublin City Council’s smart city programme,” she added.
"

I have no idea what " prioritised water services under Dublin City Council’s smart city programme" means but water is still being lost through leaks and it can take days for a reported leak to be dealt with.

Was this job advertised and what is the salary? Tierney is currently on just under €200,000 + a variety of jollies, junkets and expenses. If there were other applicants, I wonder how many there were and how many had relevant experience other than being an entrenched public sector apparatchik.

Next question - who will get the DCC Manager's job.
You forgot about the project overruns with Ballymun regeneration which has costed the taxpayer €1bn ie, double the original estimates - and it's not even completed - we're slowly reaching seven years beyond the original deadline. Then there's the little issue of approx 140 homes that are affected by pyrite and DCC doesn't even know how much it's going to cost to fix that wee problem with another €10m already being allocated to carry out remedial work on another 122 homes elsewhere.
 

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Congratulations to John Tierney on his appointment. he is a decent man working in a dysfunctional system.
Is that you Dermot? You made it clear at a recent DCC meeting that you were in favour of a property tax but that it needs to be fair. However, the only way that it can be fair is if it is based on ability to pay, you may find it difficult to garner votes from the many people in the Rathmines area who are trying to eke out an existence on the State old age pension in large houses that were paid for years ago. Paid for, I might add, out of PAYE income taxed at 60%+ and mortgage interest rates in excess of 14%, and which you now propose to impose a tax on, a tax on their family homes.

I am waiting for the minutes of the last DCC meeting to be published on the website so that I can refresh my memory on what you had to say about the impact on the local environment of the increased number of advertising hoardings and your mealy mouthed responses to the request by residents to close a laneway which is being opposed by Eircom.
 
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Irish Times http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...311853475.html
At a Special Meeting of DCC in January 2012, the elected representatives passed the following motion
“The elected members of Dublin City Council again call on the City Manager to make available to the members the service level agreement and the commercial terms agreed with Greyhound. The Manager should advise what payment
Greyhound made to DCC for the business and/or how much DCC is paying Greyhound to fulfil the service”.
and the in the minutes of the Special Meeting of DCC in January 2012 http://www.dublincity.ie/YourCouncil...001 2012.pdf
Tierney refused to provide the information and, to the best of my knowledge this information has never been provided to the elected representatives.

So what else has he to qualify him for the Irish Water job?
According to the IT article
"Mr Tierney has spent over 35 years in local government, having worked in nine different local authorities across the country.
“In his last three jobs as manager in Dublin City, Fingal and Galway City, he (John) has been heavily involved in the planning and delivery of major water services programmes,” Bord Gáis chairwoman Rose Hynes said.
"
Firstly, there is a stipulation in the 2001 Local Government Act that orders the City/County Manager to disclose that information to the City/County Councillors but unfortunately very many, if not all, of those elected representatives know sweet F all about the Act and couldn't be bothered reading it.
In this instance, the fault lies with the Councillors for apparently not issuing proceedings against the City Manager.

Secondly, a few short years ago the city of Galway was hit with an outbreak of sickness that was attributed to bacterial pollution in the water supply.
A 'boil notice' was in place for a full year. Well done Mr Tierney.
 

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I said I was in favour of local taxation in principle. Property taxes can be part of that. There are ways in which Property taxes can be made fairer through better deferred payment systems for example.

The Labour Group on DCC has developed a range of options in this general area and are hoping and calling on the Government to use the period between now and the next Budget to refine the system to take on board our views and those of many others who in principle support local taxation but want to see this particular one improved.
 

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You seem to know him. Can you ask him how he came to the decision about greyhound? City or county managers should be voted on by the locals. These people hold all the power now and are held accountable to no one.
No, he cannot, he is Dermot Lacey and despite a number of motions being passed by the elected representatives, Tierney refused to prove the information. You can look at the minutes of the special meeting of DCC here. http://www.dublincity.ie/YourCouncil/CouncilMeetings/Documents/Minutes Special Meeting 23 01 2012.pdf

You should watch the live webcasts of the DCC meetings, highly educational and enlightening.
 
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