Johnny Logan on Late Late: RTE's Eurovision catastrophes

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Johnny Logan firing with both barrels at RTE for messing up the Eurovision. Tubridy trying to play it cool.

Johnny says Eurovision belongs to the Irish people not some some elite group in RTE.

Where did he get that idea? Oh sure, he won it once or twice (OK three times!) but where does he get off criticising RTE!

Look at the fantastic representatives they've sent in recent years







Here's where the rot set in:



18. Ireland - Chris Doran - If the world stops turning
Now, as we all know, Ireland have been running scared from hosting Eurovision again for many years, following their financially crippling run of success in the 1990s. And so, yet again, they've shoved some well-meaning hopeful into a suit, plonked a row of indifferent backing singers behind him, squeezed everyone from his home town on a plane with unlimited supplies of booze (you should see the size of the Irish "delegation" every year), and saddled him with yet another turgid dirge which threatens to stretch three short minutes into five long hours.

(This one might be written by that guy who's just left Westlife - you know, the one with the wife who won that I'm A Celebrity doo-dah - but that changes nothing.)

Yes, it's a toilet break. Ireland, the emptying bladders of Europe will be serenading you tonight.
Prediction: bottom 3.
Actual position: 23rd. CORRECT.
 


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Mikey Graham's song was the best so far. The first two were dire - but then John Waters was responsible for one, and he is the embodiment of "dire", dire as a songwriter, dire as a journalist, even with dire hair.
 

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Didn't think much of any of them to be honest. Niamh Kavanagh's one was ok to start and finish, but all over the place in the middle

Mikey Graham's was absolutely horrendous

The Fashion Show one was a rip off of Christina Aquilera's Candyman.. and a pretty bad rip off.. but would hold out the possibility of putting on a crazy dress performance at the actual Eurovision

The first one.. was that Water's one ? ... five blondes.. you coud do something with them too

And Rivers of Silence.. hmm... best keep silent about it

Anyways, that wasn't what I wanted to write about. I wanted to knock on the head the constant refrain that "RTE couldn't afford the Eurovision".. what an absolute load of nonsense.. not only could Ireland afford it.. but they should be probably begging to be allowed host it.

It would cost the national broadcaster around 10 million or so.. but would be easily recouped by advertising during the semi finals and final itself, given the huge viewership that it still attracts...

But, more importantly in my opinion.. the Eurovision has a loyal audience of between 150-300 million people every year... how better to show off the country to possible tourists than by using those little inserts between songs

It would easily pay for itself
 

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Mikey Grahams song was alright but his voice is just awful. I can see Niamh Kavanaghs song/voice performing better in a 15,000 seater stadium other wise the rest was awful. Logan looks like a cheap porn star but he can sure sing
 

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Didn't think much of any of them to be honest. Niamh Kavanagh's one was ok to start and finish, but all over the place in the middle

Mikey Graham's was absolutely horrendous

The Fashion Show one was a rip off of Christina Aquilera's Candyman.. and a pretty bad rip off.. but would hold out the possibility of putting on a crazy dress performance at the actual Eurovision

The first one.. was that Water's one ? ... five blondes.. you coud do something with them too

And Rivers of Silence.. hmm... best keep silent about it

Anyways, that wasn't what I wanted to write about. I wanted to knock on the head the constant refrain that "RTE couldn't afford the Eurovision".. what an absolute load of nonsense.. not only could Ireland afford it.. but they should be probably begging to be allowed host it.

It would cost the national broadcaster around 10 million or so.. but would be easily recouped by advertising during the semi finals and final itself, given the huge viewership that it still attracts...

But, more importantly in my opinion.. the Eurovision has a loyal audience of between 150-300 million people every year... how better to show off the country to possible tourists than by using those little inserts between songs

It would easily pay for itself
Wrong. RTÉ couldn't afford it. The advertising wouldn't cover the cost. Even if it did, that money wouldn't come in until around the broadcast time. But the bills have to be paid over the previous year. So as in the past they would have to slash the budget for everything else to pay the bills at the start. It is a nightmare for broadcasters. Every one that gets it hates it because they end up having to slash budgets elsewhere, cancel longstanding programmes, and in RTÉ's case running on bread and water financially for that season.

Their response, as they joke, when they win is always the same "Brilliant, we won. . . Ah sh1t, we won. Well there goes next year's drama budget."
 

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Wrong. RTÉ couldn't afford it. The advertising wouldn't cover the cost. Even if it did, that money wouldn't come in until around the broadcast time. But the bills have to be paid over the previous year. So as in the past they would have to slash the budget for everything else to pay the bills at the start. It is a nightmare for broadcasters. Every one that gets it hates it because they end up having to slash budgets elsewhere, cancel longstanding programmes, and in RTÉ's case running on bread and water financially for that season.

Their response, as they joke, when they win is always the same "Brilliant, we won. . . Ah sh1t, we won. Well there goes next year's drama budget."
Give RTE the bloody Bord Failte budget.. the publicity alone to a captive audience would more than pay back the cost of hosting
 

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Why we even bother to enter that festival of mediocrity is beyond me. It is long passed its sell by date and is merely,mainly, a carve up between the Eastern Europeans, at this stage. Plus it costs the taxpayer money to offer this drivel every year!!
 

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No disrespect to Niamh Kavanagh, but she's not going to win. Economic recovery postponed for another year!
 

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The Late Late show itself is an insult to taxpayer's money, but this particular show takes the piss. The Eurovision song contest is the singing equivalent of the Vauxhall Conference football league.

All acts were genuinely ********************e. OK, the 5 girls form the first song were drop-dead hot.....otherwise that was about it!!
 

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The Eurovision song contest is the singing equivalent of the Vauxhall Conference football league.
Eh no actually. If someone wins Eurovision they usually top the charts in about 15 countries and have long term musical careers in many of them. In isolated little Ireland people presume that if you aren't a hit in the UK you aren't a hit. In fact Eurovision winners have had tens of millions of album sales and become multi-millionaires. Whether they are a success in Britain is immaterial and having a hit in Ireland wouldn't pay for a round of drinks and isn't worth the hassle.

If you don't like it, don't watch it. But hundreds of millions do Europe-wide. In terms of album sales Europewide it can be like winning the premier league.
 

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Niamh still has a fantastic voice - but realistically she doesnt have the sex appeal of some of the younger ones she will be up against. It wont win but a great song all the same.
 

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In fairness the winner was the best, but it was head and shoulders over the remaining dross. Can it at least get to the finals? Be damned if I know. I thought Mickey Graham's song was awful if unlike as stated above I thought he at least sung it well.

Ireland could do with winning it and bringing it over in 2011. The hoteliers alone would part pay to bring it here if needed. Its a whole week thing now rather than just a one nighter.
 

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Eh no actually. If someone wins Eurovision they usually top the charts in about 15 countries and have long term musical careers in many of them. In isolated little Ireland people presume that if you aren't a hit in the UK you aren't a hit. In fact Eurovision winners have had tens of millions of album sales and become multi-millionaires. Whether they are a success in Britain is immaterial and having a hit in Ireland wouldn't pay for a round of drinks and isn't worth the hassle.

If you don't like it, don't watch it. But hundreds of millions do Europe-wide. In terms of album sales Europewide it can be like winning the premier league.
Topping the charts doesn't necessarily mean that you have produced a musical masterpiece and are a great singer. David Hasselhof sold loads of records in Germany during the eighties and made a fortune from his singing career, yet we all know that he was a crap singer. The charts are not a musical benchmark they merely reflect the popularity of the record and the singer.

The music in the Eurovision isn't great. The songs are cheesy and more or less sound the same. It's not about the music anymore, it's more about the looks and the presentation. The more skimpy-clothed women you have on stage, the more votes you will get!! This is all aided by a biased phone-in jury system. All the Easter European states vote for themselves. Ever wondered why so many Germans vote douze points for the turks? The voting in this event is very predictable...Anyway, you're right, you either watch it or you don't. I choose not to...
 
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Why we even bother to enter that festival of mediocrity is beyond me. It is long passed its sell by date and is merely,mainly, a carve up between the Eastern Europeans, at this stage. Plus it costs the taxpayer money to offer this drivel every year!!
That explains why it's in Norway this year...

Congratulations to Niamh et al. At the very least she'll get us to the right half of the scoreboard.
 

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If we need to win the Eurovomit contest to improve economically, we really are sunk!! :)
 


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