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Joshua Molloy versus Ibrahim Halawa: contrast and compare

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A young Irish man has been arrested in a Muslim country after going there to take sides in an ongoing conflict.

Foreign Affairs Minister Charlie Flanagan is "keeping close watch on the situation" and his department told the Irish Mirror: “We are aware of the case and we stand ready to provide consular assistance.

Family plea for release of Irish man held in Iraq after fighting ISIS - Irish Mirror Online

How do we feel about the plight of this young man? How many Twitter warriors and leftist politicians are campaigning for his release thus far?
 


ruserious

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Molloy went to fight ISIS, an organisation that wishes to end Western Civilisation and would cut your throat if given the opportunity, OP.
Halawa went to support the Muslim Brotherhood, an organisation which is the antithesis of democratic values and equality, even if their removal from power is controversial.

That said, it is unacceptable that Egypt is detaining an Irish citizen for 3 years without trial.
 

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he is white and male, he's fcked so. He should probably start identifying as Trans and finding himself a dress if he wants any sympathy in Ireland.
 

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A young Irish man has been arrested in a Muslim country after going there to take sides in an ongoing conflict.

Foreign Affairs Minister Charlie Flanagan is "keeping close watch on the situation" and his department told the Irish Mirror: “We are aware of the case and we stand ready to provide consular assistance.

Family plea for release of Irish man held in Iraq after fighting ISIS - Irish Mirror Online

How do we feel about the plight of this young man? How many Twitter warriors and leftist politicians are campaigning for his release thus far?
Maybe naive but definitely fighting for the good guys == Kurds.
 

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the case here is four days old and already getting media attention. Nothing stopping people here setting up a twitter account if they wish to highlight the case more. How exactly is a valid comparison to be made here.
 

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the case here is four days old and already getting media attention. Nothing stopping people here setting up a twitter account if they wish to highlight the case more. How exactly is a valid comparison to be made here.
you get the feeling though that RTE wont be scrambling over like they did with the drug mules for instance in South America.
 

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the case here is four days old and already getting media attention. Nothing stopping people here setting up a twitter account if they wish to highlight the case more. How exactly is a valid comparison to be made here.
The point I suppose is that Halawa is a Muslim Brotherhood supporter and the MB are no friends to democracy.
 

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To contrast and compare - one Irish citizen was supporting a terrorist group whose mission statement is to eradicate our way of life, the other Irish citizen was fighting terrorists.

No comparison really.
 

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Interesting case. Of all the sides in that conflict the Kurds seem to occupy a higher moral ground, so it's tempting to ascribe noble motivations to Molloy joining forces with them, reminiscent of Irish fighting in international brigades in the Spanish civil war.

However he in the British Army which seems an odd choice for an idealistic young man these days, so were his motivations more anti-Islam/Islamisation?

I'd like to see him interviewed (by media, not Gardai!) if/when he comes home.

Some good pics on his FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/joshua.molloy.9
 

flavirostris

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Absolutely no chance of Sinn Fein or Irish media hacks starting a campaign for this chap.
He dosen't belong to a radical Muslim organisation so hes not of interest to them.
 

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he is white and male, he's fcked so. He should probably start identifying as Trans and finding himself a dress if he wants any sympathy in Ireland.
It seems our shower of ******************************s are leaving the UK do the negotiations to get the man out. I'm sure they will get him out, or someone in Iraq will be sorry.
A brave man, all the best of luck to him and his family. He should be welcomed back here by the state when he gets out.
 

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Interesting case. Of all the sides in that conflict the Kurds seem to occupy a higher moral ground, so it's tempting to ascribe noble motivations to Molloy joining forces with them, reminiscent of Irish fighting in international brigades in the Spanish civil war.

However he in the British Army which seems an odd choice for an idealistic young man these days, so were his motivations more anti-Islam/Islamisation?

I'd like to see him interviewed (by media, not Gardai!) if/when he comes home.

Some good pics on his FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/joshua.molloy.9
You do know the majority of Kurds are Sunni Muslim with the rest mainly Shia Muslim??
 

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Molloy went to fight ISIS, an organisation that wishes to end Western Civilisation and would cut your throat if given the opportunity, OP.
Halawa went to support the Muslim Brotherhood, an organisation which is the antithesis of democratic values and equality, even if their removal from power is controversial.

That said, it is unacceptable that Egypt is detaining an Irish citizen for 3 years without trial.
Yes, hopefully Halawa will get his trial soon and if found guilty a long sentence. Hopefully they will call for the extradition of his sisters, both fugitives from the law. Supporters of the Muslm Brotherhood are dirt.
 

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Yes, hopefully Halawa will get his trial soon and if found guilty a long sentence. Hopefully they will call for the extradition of his sisters, both fugitives from the law. Supporters of the Muslm Brotherhood are dirt.
I wouldn't be against extraditing them if there was sufficient evidence of wrongdoing and they would be given a fair trial. That is unlikely however.
 

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You do know the majority of Kurds are Sunni Muslim with the rest mainly Shia Muslim??
Aware. But they are relatively secular and have no interest in being run by Islamic fundamentalists nor spreading Islam violently in the West.
 

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