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Ken Loach to Revive Memory of Jimmy Gralton (1886-1945)


Nedz Newt

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Ken Loach's next Irish-related project may be a movie about Co Leitrim radical socialist Jimmy Gralton.

Gralton remained stubbornly revolutionary socialist in the 1920s & early 30s at a time when many civil war republicans (via Fianna Fáil) were shedding their radicalism and struggling towards the political mainstream.

He was finally deported in 1932, a citizen of the then Free State expelled from that state, without crime, charge or conviction.

He remained in the US thereafter until his death in 1945.

Director Ken Loach returning to Ireland - RT Ten
 

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I wonder how Loach who is a Trotskyist will deal with Gralton's Stalinism?
 

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Gralton was just a guy who returned to Leitrim where he was born and reared. He tried to do something for the subsistence farmers of the area. For that he was attacked by Church and state,as a communist which he was not.
Devilera had him deported from his own country, the only Irishman ever to suffer that fate from the Republic. Odd thing is that he was once a member of FF!
 

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Gralton was just a guy who returned to Leitrim where he was born and reared. He tried to do something for the subsistence farmers of the area. For that he was attacked by Church and state,as a communist which he was not.
Devilera had him deported from his own country, the only Irishman ever to suffer that fate from the Republic. Odd thing is that he was once a member of FF!
I think you will find that he was!
 

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Gralton was just a guy who returned to Leitrim where he was born and reared. He tried to do something for the subsistence farmers of the area. For that he was attacked by Church and state,as a communist which he was not.
Devilera had him deported from his own country, the only Irishman ever to suffer that fate from the Republic. Odd thing is that he was once a member of FF!
But it was all in vain, because FF (and indeed Ireland) were eventually lead by Bertie the Socialist......

lead into ruin that is....
 

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It sounds like real family fun and a summer blockbuster;)
It might be better than you think - Jimmy was the anti-Christ (according to the RCC), opened an unauthorised (by the RCC) dance-hall where athletic youths and comely maidens could go and misbehave.

So with the devil's spawn and painted Jezebels, righteous preachers and formerly radical rebels rushing to bend the knee to the latter, get out the popcorn!
 

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Ken Loach's next Irish-related project may be a movie about Co Leitrim radical socialist Jimmy Gralton.

Gralton remained stubbornly revolutionary socialist in the 1920s & early 30s at a time when many civil war republicans (via Fianna Fáil) were shedding their radicalism and struggling towards the political mainstream.

He was finally deported in 1932, a citizen of the then Free State expelled from that state, without crime, charge or conviction.

He remained in the US thereafter until his death in 1945.

Director Ken Loach returning to Ireland - RT Ten
Looking forward to that, fair play Nedz!
 

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Kes is one of the greatest movies of all time. A quite unique masterpiece. Nothing else Loach has done really comes close.
 

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His film about the Spanish Civil War is not bad - Land and Hope?. It was strongly anti-Stalinist which makes me curious as to how Loach will deal with Gralton who was a Stalinist and would not have been at all pleased by a trot making a film about him!
 

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His film about the Spanish Civil War is not bad - Land and Hope?. It was strongly anti-Stalinist which makes me curious as to how Loach will deal with Gralton who was a Stalinist and would not have been at all pleased by a trot making a film about him!
If Gralton was still around I'd say he should be delighted that anyone was making a film about him!
 

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Gralton was just a guy who returned to Leitrim where he was born and reared. He tried to do something for the subsistence farmers of the area. For that he was attacked by Church and state,as a communist which he was not.
Devilera had him deported from his own country, the only Irishman ever to suffer that fate from the Republic. Odd thing is that he was once a member of FF!
Communist Party of Ireland

Under pressure from the Catholic Church, in February 1933 the de Valera government ordered Gralton to be deported as an “undesirable alien,” but instead of complying he went on the run. The Revolutionary Workers’ Group organised a defence campaign, but its meetings were attacked by reactionaries, and Gralton was eventually deported in August 1933—the only Irish person ever deported from their own country.
Home Rule was Rome Rule - but I doubt if he would have been welcome in Northern Ireland ;)
 

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Home Rule was Rome Rule - but I doubt if he would have been welcome in Northern Ireland ;)
He'd have gotten on alright in Belfast in the 1940s and 50s when the CP was in it's Unionist phase!

Him being in Fianna Fáil is interesting as there were a good few CP members who joined FF in the 20s, including long-time leadership figure Johnny Nolan. I think Madame Despard was a member for a time as well. FF would have been regarded by the CP as a much better and more radical proposition than the Labour Party.
 

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I don't think Jimmy would've objected to being called a communist at all, except in 1930s Ireland the word was avoided if you knew what was good for you.

An interesting sub-plot would be to trace the direction of FF from its radical origins to its acquiescence with Free State conservatism in those early years.
 

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He'd have gotten on alright in Belfast in the 1940s and 50s when the CP was in it's Unionist phase!

Him being in Fianna Fáil is interesting as there were a good few CP members who joined FF in the 20s, including long-time leadership figure Johnny Nolan. I think Madame Despard was a member for a time as well. FF would have been regarded by the CP as a much better and more radical proposition than the Labour Party.
But was he ever in FF?
 

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But was he ever in FF?
I don't think so, I'll see what I can find out in what records exist in Effernagh & Carrick, and report back any info.

I can see why people would say he was though - people who were never members of FF were identified as "FF" in the 20s because the people they were known to have fought alongside a few years earlier were now FF. And of course these same people prob voted FF so had no problem with the description.
 

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I don't think so, I'll see what I can find out in what records exist in Effernagh & Carrick, and report back any info.

I can see why people would say he was though - people who were never members of FF were identified as "FF" in the 20s because the people they were known to have fought alongside a few years earlier were now FF. And of course these same people prob voted FF so had no problem with the description.
I'd be surprised if he was - he left Ireland before FF was founded - June 1922 and only returned in 1932 on the death of his Brother, by which time he was far to the left of FF - although he may have been influenced because FF had been portrayed as being "red"?
 

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I'd be surprised if he was - he left Ireland before FF was founded - June 1922 and only returned in 1932 on the death of his Brother, by which time he was far to the left of FF - although he may have been influenced because FF had been portrayed as being "red"?
I fully expect you're right (never in FF)....SOME day, when today's thesis is done, there'll be a work on Civil War-to-1926 and Ff-to-1932 and THEN we'll be millionaires Rodney..:)
 
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