Kevin Myers on Nigerians "living off this State"



Nagy

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Kevin Myers is just a journalistic troll. In an ideal world scum like him would be frying burgers in McDonalds.
 

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Give it two minutes before the bleeding hearts brigade round on you accusing you of being racist. Fair play. Brave decision for posting.
 

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Supermanpolitician said:
Give it two minutes before the bleeding hearts brigade round on you accusing you of being racist. Fair play. Brave decision for posting.
What are FG's policies on this issue then? Work camps I presume?
 

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martel said:
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/risible-lies-about-immigrants-no-substitute-for-honest-debate-1456226.html

Myers is one of the very few non PC journalists out there wishing to handle this story. Don't agree with him on all topics he writes on but this is well worth a read.
Bravo Kevin Myers
And, naturally, for this is Ireland, it's professionally far more rewarding for the media to go on an easy, Catholic-bashing spree than it is to inquire into the complex and possibly discomfiting truths about immigration.
. Not a truer word has been spoken. Wait for the hysterical shreeks of the pc left.
 

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Clanrickard said:
martel said:
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/risible-lies-about-immigrants-no-substitute-for-honest-debate-1456226.html

Myers is one of the very few non PC journalists out there wishing to handle this story. Don't agree with him on all topics he writes on but this is well worth a read.
Bravo Kevin Myers
And, naturally, for this is Ireland, it's professionally far more rewarding for the media to go on an easy, Catholic-bashing spree than it is to inquire into the complex and possibly discomfiting truths about immigration.
. Not a truer word has been spoken. Wait for the hysterical shreeks of the pc left.
I agree completely. It was a good article - based on figures from the CSO - that raises good questions.
 

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martel said:
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/risible-lies-about-immigrants-no-substitute-for-honest-debate-1456226.html

Myers is one of the very few non PC journalists out there wishing to handle this story. Don't agree with him on all topics he writes on but this is well worth a read.
Interesting statistics there. Meyers has a good point on this one.

What is it we owe Nigeria again?
 

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I warmly welcome refugees into the country and considering Irish people can work and claim EU benefits in other EU countries it's only natural that other EU citizens can do the same here.

Ever since I started working with them when I was 18 though I've known that there are a significant number of Nigerians in the country who are scammers. Myers deserves praise for writing this article.
 

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But why do they come *here*?

Obviously there are complexities and some/many "asylum seekers" are in fact economic migrants.

If I was living in Nigeria and had a chance to get out I'd certainly take it.

But why Ireland?

Given that (I understand) "genuine asylum seekers" are supposed to seek asylum in the first country that they arrive in?

A long way, no direct flights until recently (I think I saw something about a direct Dublin-Lagos flight?).

Are our (?) relatively generous welfare benefits a "pull factor"?

Or is it the slowness of the assessment process?

And no, I have no time for Myers but it is true that immigration policy should be discussed..
 

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Nigerians spend several years on arrival in Ireland not allowed to work. They spend several years figuring out how to beat the system.
It sin't surprising that they are good at it.

That said this is a non story.
3,000 Nigerians collecting the dole don't worry me.

300,000 Poles working three jobs each living in filth and allowing gombeen employers to drive Irish workers into poverty do.

The Nigerian is stealing from the state but the Pole is stealing from me.
 

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I think if you judge the article on its own merits; ignore the fact Kevin Myers wrote it; and separate it from any of his other works in your mind then it makes a valid point.
 

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mountainyman said:
Nigerians spend several years on arrival in Ireland not allowed to work. They spend several years figuring out how to beat the system.
It sin't surprising that they are good at it.

That said this is a non story.
3,000 Nigerians collecting the dole don't worry me.

300,000 Poles working three jobs each living in filth and allowing gombeen employers to drive Irish workers into poverty do.

The Nigerian is stealing from the state but the Pole is stealing from me.
Wrong I'm afraid. Capitalism and the "free" market is stealing from you.
 

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i've no prob with immigrants entering the country legally and wanting to create a better lives for themselves.

i have major problems with economic immigrants posing as "refugees" sponging off the state.

1. they are taking resources that should be going to genuine refugees.
2. they are tarnishing the credibility of genuine refugees.
 

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Nagy said:
Kevin Myers is just a journalistic troll. In an ideal world scum like him would be frying burgers in McDonalds.
What I find interesting is the snobbery of the Irish middle class left. Imagine thinking the vast armies of foreginers and working class Irish working in the fast food industry are scum. Not very pc there Nagy. But I suppose the fairtrade frappucino quaffing 4 x 4 driving left were never rally in the whoel socialist thing on a real level were they Nagy. Just as long s you can be cool with your ugg wearing vaccuous know nothing mates.
 

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Clanrickard said:
Nagy said:
Kevin Myers is just a journalistic troll. In an ideal world scum like him would be frying burgers in McDonalds.
What I find interesting is the snobbery of the Irish middle class left. Imagine thinking the vast armies of foreginers and working class Irish working in the fast food industry are scum. Not very pc there Nagy. But I suppose the fairtrade frappucino quaffing 4 x 4 driving left were never rally in the whoel socialist thing on a real level were they Nagy. Just as long s you can be cool with your ugg wearing vaccuous know nothing mates.
Alot of good people frying burgers in McDonalds who deserve better.

My comment is a reflection of what a horrible job it is, not the people who do it. It would be nice to take a decent person out of those conditions and mimimum wage pay and replace them with scum. Pretty straight forward.

But of course the far right have always taken the side of minimum wage workers over the left!
 

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Nagy said:
Kevin Myers is just a journalistic troll. In an ideal world scum like him would be frying burgers in McDonalds

Look, the fact of the matter is that Kevin Myers wrote an article bassed on statistics.


It's a disgrace that this is happening, what got to me the most was the 38% working.
I suppose it makes me evil and right-wing for being able to think of 100s of more productive things this money can be used for? :roll:
 

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Interesting point brought up there.

How come so many nigerians aren't working and self sufficent?

Because they can't work, or won't? I doubt that anyone truly believes that its the latter so what is it thats stopping them from being able to work, and whats the best way to amend it.
 

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Nagy said:
Clanrickard said:
Nagy said:
Kevin Myers is just a journalistic troll. In an ideal world scum like him would be frying burgers in McDonalds.
What I find interesting is the snobbery of the Irish middle class left. Imagine thinking the vast armies of foreginers and working class Irish working in the fast food industry are scum. Not very pc there Nagy. But I suppose the fairtrade frappucino quaffing 4 x 4 driving left were never rally in the whoel socialist thing on a real level were they Nagy. Just as long s you can be cool with your ugg wearing vaccuous know nothing mates.
Alot of good people frying burgers in McDonalds who deserve better.

My comment is a reflection of what a horrible job it is, not the people who do it. It would be nice to take a decent person out of those conditions and mimimum wage pay and replace them with scum. Pretty straight forward.

But of course the far right have always taken the side of minimum wage workers over the left!
http://www.mcdonalds.ie/About-Us/Press- ... anies.aspx

The above recognises McD's as a good employer to work for. You see we on the right believe a job is best way to help the "workers" the likes of you and Joe Higgins drone on about rather than handing them money for nothing. Which is why millions of ordinary workers are heading to the US, EU, Oz and other right wing free marekt economies and away from socialist "paradises" like Cuba and North Korea.
 


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