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"Kilwilke" due an apology ?


Kerrygold

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It seems he has a point.

Why did they interview someone from outside the area?
 

Ard Eoin

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John O'Dowd has called for an apology from the BBC for supposedly misrepresenting the people of "Kilwilke" (sic) .....

These would be the same young people who riot at the drop of a hat and who tried to murder people on that train.

Who have no time for dissidents and love Sinn Féin ....

riot at the drop of a hat is a gross exageration..

tried to murder people is agross exageration..

in the 2007 Northern Ireland Assembly election dissident republicans stood in several constituencies. One of those was Upper Bann, the constituency in which the town of Lurgan lies.
The candidate chosen to run for the rejectionists was Barry Toman, himself a Lurgan native and member of the Continuity IRA-aligned Republican Sinn Fein. His performance was utterly pathetic. A mere 386 first preference votes were cast in his favour. John O'Dowd of Sinn Fein topped the poll with 7,733 first preference votes while his running mate Dessie Ward also pulled in an impressive 3,118. Elsewhere in the nationalist camp Dolores Kelly, the main SDLP rep for the area, got elected to Stormont with 4,689 first preference votes. But for Mr Toman and his dissident allies a paltry 386 was all that could be mustered. Hardly the numbers one would attribute to an organisation operating in their "stronghold."

yourfriendinthenorth: When is a stronghold not a stronghold?

go easy on the drama queen tabs cara!........
 

st333ve

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John O'Dowd has called for an apology from the BBC for supposedly misrepresenting the people of "Kilwilke" (sic) .....

These would be the same young people who riot at the drop of a hat and who tried to murder people on that train.

Who have no time for dissidents and love Sinn Féin ....

What about the people in Kilwilke who came out to help remove the graffiti and have risked their lives trying to stop the riots in the area?

The people living in Kilwilke are those who are under attack and are suffering the most.
They are also doing a hell of a lot more than the PSNI or any Unionist to stop it.
It's a disadvantaged working class neighbourhood that attracts yobo's and hoodlems, most people living there not only hate these scumbags but actively help to clean the area up and stop them wrecking the place.

Yet again you find the worst people you can and use them as your paint to colour everyone with.

Ignoramus.

Go back to the 16th century where you belong.
 

longmarch

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I would really hope the majority of the residents of this estate would have no time for the actions mentioned on this thread.

Its like any working class estate in NI. Judging by the murals, spray paintings etc you could easily assume all of the residents were buck mad but if you scratch the surface you always find a majority who just want to live in peace.

Yes this estate certainly has a problem and it certainly has many dissident sympathisers but i have no doubt it has as many if not more who deplore such actions.
 

Ard Eoin

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Really - so multiple attempts to derail trains doesn't count ?

Or that business of trying to burn people alive on the train earlier this year doesn't count ?


I'll bet many of those 386 votes came from Kilwilkie ;)
multiple?....

the little pr!cks set fire to the train...where is your evidence of intent to murder?..

and can you prove that any of the 386 votes came from kilwilkie...

if we all post stuff on what we think is true and lace our statements with unfounded unprovable accusations then lets go all out and see just how outlandish we can be...

you start....

oh wait...you've went already....
 

Cruimh

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multiple?....

the little pr!cks set fire to the train...where is your evidence of intent to murder?..

and can you prove that any of the 386 votes came from kilwilkie...

if we all post stuff on what we think is true and lace our statements with unfounded unprovable accusations then lets go all out and see just how outlandish we can be...

you start....

oh wait...you've went already....
Really - it was rather pathetic to try and claim there was no support for the dissidents in Kilwilkie by using votes in Upper Bann - what percentage of the elctorate of Upper Bann live in Kilwilkie ? :oops:

Yes- multiple attempts - over the years there have been numerous attempts to derail trains .....

As for the murder attempt - Remember Rock's hysteria when he assumed it was Loyalists who attacked the train this July ? The attempt to burn people in the train ? That one ?
 

Cruimh

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What about the people in Kilwilke who came out to help remove the graffiti and have risked their lives trying to stop the riots in the area?

The people living in Kilwilke are those who are under attack and are suffering the most.
They are also doing a hell of a lot more than the PSNI or any Unionist to stop it.
It's a disadvantaged working class neighbourhood that attracts yobo's and hoodlems, most people living there not only hate these scumbags but actively help to clean the area up and stop them wrecking the place.

Yet again you find the worst people you can and use them as your paint to colour everyone with.

Ignoramus.

Go back to the 16th century where you belong.
How would you know st333ve ? Earllier this year you tried to claim you were from Lurgan and made rather a fool of yourself when it was obvious you didn't even know the area round Kilwilkie, let alone live there petunia
 

eoghanacht

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I come from what used to be a rough area, people from outside would go out of their way to avoid it. The thing is you see it only takes a fraction of the residents to be total an utter cretins to give a place a bad name just ask the residents of moyross.

Sensible people usually don't take the worst anti social behaviour and hold it up as the norm, thats what bigots do inorder to justify their bigotry

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Phucking english chav scum! ;)
 

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Ard Eoin

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Really - it was rather pathetic to try and claim there was no support for the dissidents in Kilwilkie by using votes in Upper Bann - what percentage of the elctorate of Upper Bann live in Kilwilkie ? :oops:

Yes- multiple attempts - over the years there have been numerous attempts to derail trains .....

As for the murder attempt - Remember Rock's hysteria when he assumed it was Loyalists who attacked the train this July ? The attempt to burn people in the train ? That one ?
what percentage of the electorate of upper bann live in kilwilkie?...i would imagine very little!...so when the dissident polled 386 over the entire upper bann then...well...you figure it out...

"Remember too that these 386 votes were spread right across the constituency of Upper Bann. Barry Toman (CIRA) would most likely have attracted votes from the Garvaghy Road and Tunnel areas of Portadown, from other nationalist districts of Lurgan such as Taghnevan and from mainly Catholic rural parts of north Armagh like Derrymacash, Derrytrasna, Aghagallon and elsewhere. Given such a geographic spread it would be more accurate to say that dissident republicans have a scattering of support from various individuals in certain areas of the north rather than having any particular 'stronghold' to speak of."
yourfriendinthenorth: When is a stronghold not a stronghold?

rocks hysteria doesn't make it a murder attempt...either prove an intent to murder or give over...jeez...

re your Op...you still no proof to back up any of your claims...riots every now and then...hardly at the drop of a hat...no proof of any attempted murder...anywhere...and insinuations that the dissidents have strong support in that area...which is b*llocks

you are way to eager to brand an entire community with your spurious accusations...

at one stage i never believed that you would be found in a lynch mob...and certainly...you'll never be seen at the front...but two or three rows back...there you are...egging on the front runners..with shouts of "go on!"...and "they're obviously all the bleedin' same!"...and a big burning handful of your ill concieved allegations....

i now feel you to be more insidious than previously thought...



and you should drop the emoticon thing...its ridiculous...
 

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I'm sure it's bad cruimh but is it fair to tar all the residents with the same brush
No of course it isn't and that's why SF is complaining. Though Kilwilkie is perceived as a dissident 'stronghold' the reality is that an RSF candidate pulled shy of 400 votes in a constitutency which includes estates such as Taghnevan, Drumbeg, etc, the Garvaghy Road in Portadown as well as some strongly repubilcan rural aeas on the shores of Lough Neagh. Of the two people interviewed one sounded like he came from Belfast and the other came from a family with strong dissident connections but was not introduced as such. Thus all the 'locals' in the BBC piece were portrayed as being in sympathy with the dissidents.
 

st333ve

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Yes- multiple attempts - over the years there have been numerous attempts to derail trains
Derail a train!!?

When did they try to do that????

Even these nutters havent been pulling up railway lines, I suppose when some kid throws a petrol bomb at a landrover he's trying to burn down the whole town to ethnic cleanse the place of the poor old victimised good living decent Unionists eh??
 

st333ve

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Anyone can visit it, walk through it etc.
It's hardly Afghanistan.
 
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