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Kissinger controls National Security Agency


Destiny's Soldier

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Remarks by National Security Adviser Jones at 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy - Council on Foreign Relations

James L. Jones

U.S. National Security Adviser Jones gave these remarks at the 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy at the Hotel Bayerischer Hof on February 8, 2009.

"Thank you for that wonderful tribute to Henry Kissinger yesterday. Congratulations. As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger, filtered down through Generaal Brent Scowcroft and Sandy Berger, who is also here. We have a chain of command in the National Security Council that exists today.

So, Kissinger runs the NSA. Who Elected Kissinger?

 

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He held the position under Nixon...
 

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The National Security Advisor is not the National Security Agency.

Regards...jmcc
 

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National Security Council

Thread title should be Kissinger Controls National Security Council.

But Obama's appointee gets his daily orders from Kissinger not Obama. And if the NSC is chaired by the "President" that would make Kissinger the real decision maker or President in such matters.

The National Security Council (NSC) is the President's principal forum for considering national security and foreign policy matters with his senior national security advisors and cabinet officials. Since its inception under President Truman, the Council's function has been to advise and assist the President on national security and foreign policies. The Council also serves as the President's principal arm for coordinating these policies among various government agencies.

The NSC is chaired by the President. Its regular attendees (both statutory and non-statutory) are the Vice President, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Defense, and the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is the statutory military advisor to the Council, and the Director of National Intelligence is the intelligence advisor. The Chief of Staff to the President, Counsel to the President, and the Assistant to the President for Economic Policy are invited to attend any NSC meeting. The Attorney General and the Director of the Office of Management and Budget are invited to attend meetings pertaining to their responsibilities. The heads of other executive departments and agencies, as well as other senior officials, are invited to attend meetings of the NSC when appropriate.

The National Security Council was established by the National Security Act of 1947 (PL 235 - 61 Stat. 496; U.S.C. 402), amended by the National Security Act Amendments of 1949 (63 Stat. 579; 50 U.S.C. 401 et seq.). Later in 1949, as part of the Reorganization Plan, the Council was placed in the Executive Office of the President.
 

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For Pete's sake...Kissinger is an 85-year-old man. I am in no way defending him or his record, but I'm sure you know what's going on here. It's just a tip of the hat to an elderly man who used to have great power but who no longer has anything but a symbolic role in American foreign policy.
 

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For Pete's sake...Kissinger is an 85-year-old man. I am in no way defending him or his record, but I'm sure you know what's going on here. It's just a tip of the hat to an elderly man who used to have great power but who no longer has anything but a symbolic role in American foreign policy.
That's not what was said. The man said he takes Kissinger's orders, and even explained the chain of command.
 

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I know what was said. And I am saying that these are elder statesman, to whom tribute is being made. That's all. But if this is going to shape up to be a conspiracy thread, I'll leave you to it.
 

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I know what was said. And I am saying that these are elder statesman, to whom tribute is being made. That's all. But if this is going to shape up to be a conspiracy thread, I'll leave you to it.
There's no reason whatsoever not to take the man at his word. If you have an alternative thesis to him telling the truth in public, then you are the conspiracy theorist.
 

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For Pete's sake...Kissinger is an 85-year-old man. I am in no way defending him or his record, but I'm sure you know what's going on here. It's just a tip of the hat to an elderly man who used to have great power but who no longer has anything but a symbolic role in American foreign policy.
You have got to be the biggest toolbox on this whole site. Did Kissinger meet with the Russian president and prime minister within the past week or not in Moscow.
 

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National Security Council

Thread title should be Kissinger Controls National Security Council.

But Obama's appointee gets his daily orders from Kissinger not Obama. And if the NSC is chaired by the "President" that would make Kissinger the real decision maker or President in such matters.
The trans-party agenda advances regardless of how one votes.

Kissinger is responsible for the murder of Moro in Italy as Moro's own wife testified and for the assassination of Bhutto in Pakistan as he himself testified from prison- and both of these political assassinations occurred because these leaders refused to bow to the US imposed zero growth policy.
 

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You have got to be the biggest toolbox on this whole site. Did Kissinger meet with the Russian president and prime minister within the past week or not in Moscow.
He did indeed. And if you want to believe that sending a couple of old foreign policy wonks out to test the waters means that Kissinger is now in charge of the National Security Whatever, you may have just won my toolbox sash and tiara.
 

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He did indeed. And if you want to believe that sending a couple of old foreign policy wonks out to test the waters means that Kissinger is now in charge of the National Security Whatever, you may have just won my toolbox sash and tiara.
That's what the National Security Advisor said. Does he get your sash and tiara?
 

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The likes of East Coast Elitist is to be pitied. In his world Putin spends his time meeting with "a couple of old foreign policy wonks"
 

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The National Security Advisor is not the National Security Agency.

Regards...jmcc
I am still waiting on that one to sink in with a few posters. No sign yet. :p

For those interested, the National Security Council is an advisery body and is also concerned with co-ordinating preidential security policy amongst concerned agencies, thus it is not a policy making body. This link from the Whitehouse:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/nsc/

NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL

The National Security Council (NSC) is the President's principal forum for considering national security and foreign policy matters with his senior national security advisors and cabinet officials. Since its inception under President Truman, the Council's function has been to advise and assist the President on national security and foreign policies. The Council also serves as the President's principal arm for coordinating these policies among various government agencies.
 

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I am still waiting on that one to sink in with a few posters. No sign yet. :p

For those interested, the National Security Council is an advisery body and is also concerned with co-ordinating preidential security policy amongst concerned agencies, thus it is not a policy making body. This link from the Whitehouse:

National Security Council

God, are you blind or what? I corrected my error on the 4th post in the thread.

http://www.politics.ie/1516265-post4.html

I can't edit the title only the content of the post.

But the point is: Obama's appointee takes his DAILY orders from Kissinger, an 85 year old.

My guess is that Obama himself takes his daily orders from another 80+ year old - Brzezinski.

And as Kissinger stated in January: "There's such a great reaction to Obama across the world, it's a great opportunity to form a New World Order!"
 

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God, are you blind or what? I corrected my error on the 4th post in the thread.
And yet you conitinue to talk as if the NSC has some command of security. It does not, therefore Kissinger remains an adviser, not a policy maker. So whoes in charge of what? And how is that supposed to be dangerous or threatening to security or democracy?:confused:

answer = its not. You jumped the gun, got it wrong and continue to be wrong by trying to force the point.
 

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Thank you for that wonderful tribute to Henry Kissinger yesterday. Congratulations. As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger, filtered down through Generaal Brent Scowcroft and Sandy Berger, who is also here. We have a chain of command in the National Security Council that exists today.
They seem to be the old guard of US foreign policy. This would make a lot of sense on a lot of levels for the US. Has it been confirmed or denied by anyone in the Obama administration? Henry Kissinger is still calling the shots. He used to spend a lot of time meeting with George W Bush also.
 

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Showing up the NSA.

http://rt.com/usa/168948-eff-nsa-utah-blimp/

Anti-surveillance activists flew a blimp above the National Security Agency’s massive, $1.5 billion data center in Bluffdale, Utah on Friday as an act of protest against the NSA’s contentious collection of vast amounts of the world’s digital data.

The airship belongs to the environmentalist organization Greenpeace and was flown early Friday over the NSA’s newly completed data center as a demonstration waged collectively by that group and the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a California-based advocacy group that defends digital rights and has fought tooth-and-nail against the United State intelligence community’s surveillance programs since before former contractor Edward Snowden began to leak classified secrets about those operations last year. The Tenth Amendment Center, “a national think tank that works to preserve and protect the principles of strictly limited government through information, education and activism,” also participated in the unannounced flight. ...
 
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