Knife terror in London : August 2016



A Voice

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Oh, and we've got to ban knives! It's absolutely crazy that someone can just walk into a kitchen and . . .
 

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Yes mental health did crop up after a few days but the immediate reaction was "this guy is representative of the leave campaign". Once again media used to form the agenda instead of reporting on the facts.
And the immediate reaction to last nights event was terrorism - hence the massive police response and subsequent media coverage.

If it had been an ordinary every day stabbing it wouldn't have gotten any coverage beyond London.
 

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Yes, because locking people up with mental health issues in asylums was a far more humane way of treating mental illness, the vast majority of whom have never committed any crime btw. :roll:

far more people are murdered every week by young males - do you want to lock them all up to just in case?


Tories being disparaged.


Rainman to the rescue.


Careful your knickers don't cut off the circulation dear.


There you go putting words into peoples mouths and being your general dishonest self.

No body mentioned Asylums :roll:
 

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Yes, because locking people up with mental health issues in asylums was a far more humane way of treating mental illness, the vast majority of whom have never committed any crime btw. :roll:

Far more people are murdered every week by young males - do you want to lock them all up too, just in case?
It's a fair point you make... although you've got to admit there are people wandering around who shouldn't be and who have been basically abandoned by the state... in the UK, in Ireland, probably everywhere.

They don't get the care and treatment they need and are left to their own devices for much of the time.
 

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Far more people are murdered every week by young males - do you want to lock them all up too ?
not lock them up, but maybe stop the thousands of these entering the country every week. A society with a disproportion of males over females is virtually guaranteed to be a violent society.
 

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Yes, because locking people up with mental health issues in asylums was a far more humane way of treating mental illness, the vast majority of whom have never committed any crime btw. :roll:
There is a happy medium, first of all the replacement for the asylum system should have been called, 'Don't Care in the Community'. It dumped people onto the sreets into woefully under-resourced care and largely left them to fend for themselves. The second thing it did was create a crisis in the availibility of care beds for those that urgently needed them. How often have we heard stories in this country (which has been eager to ape UK policy) about individuals in crisis that can't get a bed in a hospital or appropriate treatement and it has ended up costing them their lives? The reality is that there are plenty of patients who would be best suited to a constant care facility but the sterotype of such places as shock happy, nurse Rachett invested institutions of torture ensures they aren't built, which is convenient for governments, because they are also very expensive to run.
 

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At this point in time we do not know the motivating factor.

Hopefully British police will be honest about what occurred in their statements to the public.

From history "British police" and "honest" have not always been compatible.
 

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Why o'h Why, Can't everyone just get along?

Moreover, why do we have to hear about it when people attack random others?

Surely if we ignore these things they will no longer happen.

Yep, that's the way forward.

Everyone together now and join hands & sing we are the world.
 

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Why o'h Why, Can't everyone just get along?

Moreover, why do we have to hear about it when people attack random others?

Surely if we ignore these things they will no longer happen.

Yep, that's the way forward.

Everyone together now and join hands & sing we are the world.
Because you are the Kuffir.

Submit, or convert and you will get along just fine.
 

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A tommy Robinson tweet, so racist....

Tommy Robinson ‏@TRobinsonNewEra · 1m1 minute ago

Loyal & Proud British Sikh protecting us in #russellsquare
 

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Why o'h Why, Can't everyone just get along?

Moreover, why do we have to hear about it when people attack random others?

Surely if we ignore these things they will no longer happen.

Yep, that's the way forward.

Everyone together now and join hands & sing we are the world.
Well it worked with regard to the Daesh beheadings...

They stopped getting blanket coverage and the rate of them dropped.

Not sure if there was a blanket media decision at the behest of security agencies to stop fueling the publicity of such atrocities but it wouldn't surprise me if there was.

Obviously such incidents shouldn't be ignored and should be reported... but they shouldn't be wallowed on.
 
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TheWexfordInn

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Why o'h Why, Can't everyone just get along?

Moreover, why do we have to hear about it when people attack random others?

Surely if we ignore these things they will no longer happen.

Yep, that's the way forward.

Everyone together now and join hands & sing we are the world.
Im not sure if the various people who have posted on this thread who want us to reply to this event with hashtags and singsongs want us to just accept the occasional stabbing by Muslims as an everyday event not worth talking about or if they also want us to accept the killing of a dozen people by Muslims a la Charlie Hebdo as not worth discussing or do they think the occasional running-down of dozens by Muslims as everyday events not worth talking about or if the occasional killing by Muslims of hundreds at Music venues is not worth mentioning?

I wish they would specify so in future we will only start a thread in reaction to a Muslim attack if more than X have been killed - we need to know from the Beagle, Eoghannacht and the usual suspects what X is.
 

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No body mentioned Asylums :roll:
No, you complained about people with mental health issues being cared for in the community (which involves being outpatients, and by treatment by mental health nurses etc).

I'm afraid pedantry wont dig you out of this one.
 

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It's a fair point you make... although you've got to admit there are people wandering around who shouldn't be and who have been basically abandoned by the state... in the UK, in Ireland, probably everywhere.

They don't get the care and treatment they need and are left to their own devices for much of the time.
Oh I agree & I don't have the solutions. We do have secure units and the ability to section those who may pose a danger to themselves and others but to be honest it's a highly flawed system.
 

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not lock them up, but maybe stop the thousands of these entering the country every week. A society with a disproportion of males over females is virtually guaranteed to be a violent society.
Oh right - you're saying that most of the mental health related crime is being committed by foreigners.

Nothing insane about that at all.
 

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I'm going to London at the end of the month for almost a week. I think I'll bring my own 'protection'....
 

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Oh right - you're saying that most of the mental health related crime is being committed by foreigners.

Nothing insane about that at all.
that would be insane , I assume he means that a sub group might have a higher rate of mental issues than would be expected from a statistical average of natives. if they bring the national average down = good , if they raise the national average = bad
 


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