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Labour accuse Willie O'Dea and FF of hypocrisy on Child Benefit laid bare


williewatch

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Looks like Labour are in no mood to take today's Willie O'Dea waffle.

Its turning into a really bad day for O'Dea as he has been badly caught out..

Firstly he gets his ass well spanked on RTE drivetime as clearly he best media performances are long behind him.

To put it mildly, O'Dea's performace was Shambolic.

@Trojan_K_14: Willie O'Dea getting tore a new one on @drivetimerte by @boucherhayes. Brilliant radio, absolutely brilliant radio on RTÉ 1 #knowyourfacts

@absolutebog: Ding, ding... Boucher-Hayes accuses Willie O'Dea of making up figures as he goes along on issue of new child benefit system #drivetime

@derekbeau8: How amusing listening to Willie O Dea tripping himself up at every opportunity , you had your chance and failed miserably , #uninterested

@mockyboland: #Willie O'Dea. Gets absolutely murdered on rte radio 1 by PBH. Making up stuff, denials everything. He was once let loose to run the country

Now Aodhán Ó Ríordáin is giving O'Dea a final kicking :D

FF hypocrisy on Child Benefit laid bare | Aodhán Ó Ríordáin TD | The Labour Party

"The shameless manner in which Willie O’Dea attempted to rubbish the recommendations of the Mangan Report published today highlights Fianna Fail’s blatant hypocrisy in this issue.

I would urge Deputy O’Dea to read the National Recovery Plan 2011-2014, which was published by the Fianna Fail Govt in 2010. In that document Fianna Fail called for proposed structural reform in the areas of family income supports, including Child Benefit.

As part of this, Fianna Fail proposed the development of a rebalanced and integrated child income support payment system which would provide for a universal component to replace Child Benefit with one single payment rate per child.

Fianna Fail’s plan proposed that the universal payment would be supplemented with a further payment in the case of children of families in receipt of a social welfare payment or in low income employment. These supplements would replace qualified child payments and family income supplement as appropriate.

This sounds awfully like the proposal put forward in the Mangan Report but which now, conveniently, Fianna Fail are opposed to!

People will see right through Willie O’Dea’s scaremongering and in any case, will find it hard to take seriously, somebody who was actually a member of the Govt that got us into this mess in the first place.

In addition Willie O’Dea’s claim that it would take 500 civil servants to implement a two-tier scheme is without foundation, and when challenged about this on national radio today it became patently clear that he was making it up. It wouldn’t be the first time."

Obviously Aodhán Ó Ríordáin was listening to O'Dea's humiliation on RTE Drivetime.
 


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It might better serve Labour if they could explain how a supposedly socialist party is supporting a plan to reduce CB for all families earning in excess of 25k.
 

Ryan Tubbs

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What a cretin. Wouldn't be the first time Willie made something up. Remember the craven lies he made up about a Sinn Fein councillor running a brothel? And the fabrications contained in his High Court affidavit?
 

Marcos the black

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Sailor, just as well you're not a FF'er. ;)
 

Hitch 22

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Labour is in government for TWO years. They were ripping strips off FF from the moment the economic crisis broke and never let up. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
The public aren't buying this sh*t.
 

williewatch

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Labour is in government for TWO years. They were ripping strips off FF from the moment the economic crisis broke and never let up. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
The public aren't buying this sh*t.
But are they buying the FF sh*t?
 

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Labour is in government for TWO years. They were ripping strips off FF from the moment the economic crisis broke and never let up. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
The public aren't buying this sh*t.
Unfortunately increasing numbers of the public are buying the rubbish FF are coming out with.
 
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Sailor, just as well you're not a FF'er. ;)
Tis Marcos - but O'Dea has rattled Labour by highlighting the low threshold, not to mention his dig that they could have raised the same amount in revenue from an increase in the USC for those earning > €100k - if they had not failed to get that proposal through.
 

williewatch

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Tis Marcos - but O'Dea has rattled Labour by highlighting the low threshold, not to mention his dig that they could have raised the same amount in revenue from an increase in the USC for those earning > €100k - if they had not failed to get that proposal through.
O'Dea sounded like the rattled on on Drivetime
 

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It might better serve Labour if they could explain how a supposedly socialist party is supporting a plan to reduce CB for all families earning in excess of 25k.


Precisely. The sight of Joan Burton on Six One this evening trying to justify this is nauseating. Labour____ The Party Of The Left Behind.
 

Marcos the black

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Tis Marcos - but O'Dea has rattled Labour by highlighting the low threshold, not to mention his dig that they could have raised the same amount in revenue from an increase in the USC for those earning > €100k - if they had not failed to get that proposal through.
Except for one small thing. O'Dea sat around the cabinet table for years and watched this economy crash and burn. Bootboy O'Dea doesn't get go lecture others on what they should be doing.
 
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O'Dea sounded like the rattled on on Drivetime
Only heard the tail end of it - and the issue of whose figures were right or wrong was not resolved. However, the point is that this is going to be big trouble for Labour and O'Riordan knows that.
 

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Tis Marcos - but O'Dea has rattled Labour by highlighting the low threshold, not to mention his dig that they could have raised the same amount in revenue from an increase in the USC for those earning > €100k - if they had not failed to get that proposal through.
Just out of interest do you think raising the marginal tax rate to 55% for people who earn over €100k per year or in the case of the self employed increased to 58% will actually increase tax revenues? What do you think would happen if lets say over an 18 month period 10% of people earning over €100k per year decide to leave Ireland, it certainly wouldn't lead to increasing tax revenues from people who earn over €100k per year.

As for WOD he's just been populist.
 
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Except for one small thing. O'Dea sat around the cabinet table for years and watched this economy crash and burn. Bootboy O'Dea doesn't get go lecture others on what they should be doing.
History, Marcos - politics is what matters. And Labour are headed for big trouble on this.
 

Fr.Ted Crilly

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Except for one small thing. O'Dea sat around the cabinet table for years and watched this economy crash and burn. Bootboy O'Dea doesn't get go lecture others on what they should be doing.
And FG/Lab turned up with a mandate to put the fire in the economy out but instead said 'f*ck it, let it burn'.
 
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Just out of interest do you think raising the marginal tax rate to 55% for people who earn over €100k per year or in the case of the self employed increased to 58% will actually increase tax revenues? What do you think would happen if lets say over an 18 month period 10% of people earning over €100k per year decide to leave Ireland, it certainly wouldn't lead to increasing tax revenues from people who earn over €100k per year.

As for WOD he's just been populist.
Will you stop falling for that line - we can't tax the wealthy, we can't tax the corporates, we can't negotiate drug prices, we can't put a cap on bankers's salaries - because they'd all leave. Wise up FFS, you're being conned.
 

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Will you stop falling for that line - we can't tax the wealthy, we can't tax the corporates, we can't negotiate drug prices, we can't put a cap on bankers's salaries - because they'd all leave. Wise up FFS, you're being conned.
How did high taxes work in the 70's and 80's? Wealthy people find it easier to find work abroad due to qualifications and social networking, why should people who have done very well for themselves in life be taxed to the hilt?
 

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The labour party promised no more cuts whatsoever to child benefit, so they should get of their high horse.
 
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How did high taxes work in the 70's and 80's? Wealthy people find it easier to find work abroad due to qualifications and social networking, why should people who have done very well for themselves in life be taxed to the hilt?
Seems to work fine in countries like Sweden.
 

Fr.Ted Crilly

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History, Marcos - politics is what matters. And Labour are headed for big trouble on this.
To be fair,Labour are just doing what FG tell them to do.
Labour have no identity anymore, them and FG are two cheeks of the same arse.
 

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