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Labour Centenary Celebrations in Clonmel


Cato

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Labour are holding one of their only Centenary Events in Clonmel tomorrow. One planned for earlier in the year in Clonmel (where the party was founded) had to be called off because of possible protests and the unwillingness of the party leadership to be subject to them again after protests outside the party conference in Galway.

Eamon Gilmore explains the significance of Clonmel to Labour history in an email sent out earlier this week;

Back where it all began

* In May 1912, trade unionists from all around Ireland, gathered at their annual conference in Clonmel. A motion, proposed by James Connolly and supported by James Larkin and William O'Brien, to establish a political wing was passed, and so was born the Labour Party.
* It would have been unthinkable to let the year of our Centenary pass without bringing Party members together where it all began, and on Sunday we will be gathering for a day of celebrations and commemorations in Clonmel.
* It will give us, as Labour Party members, an opportunity to look at where we have come from as a Party and as a Movement and what our role, as a progressive party should be, in shaping Ireland's future.
* All three of our local Parliamentary Party members Minister Alan Kelly; Senator Denis Landy; MEP Phil Prendergast, will be closely involved in the proceedings, and I would like to thank them, and Labour activists all over Tipperary for their support in getting this event off the ground.

Look forward to seeing you there,

Eamon Gilmore
Here is the correspondence about the event that went out a couple of days ago to those attending the event;

Thank you for accepting our invitation to celebratethe foundation of the Labour Party in Clonmel.

This is an all ticket event and you must produce your ticket to gain entry to the event.

  • Please find enclosed your Ticket(s).
  • Hotel security will require seeing your ticket on arrival
  • You will also require your ticket to register your attendance before entering the Ballroom where refreshments will be served.
  • If you are travelling by bus, check that your ticket has a Head Office stamp on the reverse.
  • The Dublin to Clonmel bus will depart from Labour Party Head Office, 17 Ely Place,Dubfin 2 at 10am. You will need to show your ticket with the stgmp on the reversetogain entry to the bus.
  • lf you indicated you require the bus and there is no stamp on your ticket, we may haveorganised alternative transport BUT please call (01)xxxxxxx to check.
  • lf you have any queries concerning this event, please email xxxxx@labour.ie or call(01)xxxxxxx.
Preliminary Outline for Centenary Celebration in Clonmel, 2nd December2012

1.30pm Registration and onto ballroom for refreshments

2pm Official welcome by Phil Prendergast MEP

2.15pm Senator Denis Landy to speak prior to Labour Councillors Centenary Pin presentation

2.40pm Minister of State, Alan Kelly TD to speak and introduce former Leader Dick Spring

3pm Panel discussion celebrating the 100 years of Labour Party

3.40pm Centenary speech by Tanaiste Eamon Gilmore TD

4pm Musical entertainment from Jimmy Kelly & Guests

4.30pm Special Guest Mary Coughlan

5pm Event concludes

6pm Bus departs

PLEASE NOTE THIS IS A TICKETED EVENT AND YOU WILL NEED TO CARRY YOUR TICKET WITH YOU FOR ENTRY TO EVENT
The emphasis on having your ticket and on security is notable and will be explained below.

However the other noticeable thing is the absence of an union figures. Labour get a fair degree of criticism here for links with the unions, but while such links do exist, it is not often appreciated that the current leadership, or more particularly those surrounding the current leadership, have as their goal the sundering of all such links in their hope of taking support from FG. While Labour was founded by the unions and still has links with them, no union figure is present on the agenda nor will be taking part in the panel discussions. The current chair of Labour, whose candidacy for the chair was nominated by SIPTU, also fails to feature.

The security feature is present because of the likely protests and indeed the following email has was circulated during the week;

Statement by Seamus Healy TD 087-XXXXXXX

Labour in government are about to attack low and middle income people again. Yet Labour has the brass neck to attempt to commemorate the founding of the Labour Party in Clonmel next Sunday.

The Workers and Unemployed Action Group will hold a protest picket outside the Minella Hotel beginning at 11 AM next Sunday.

Join the Protest!

A series of cuts in next Wednesdays budget have been leaked to the Irish Independent.

FAMILIES are facing a €10 cut in child benefit and medical card holders will see a doubling of the charges they pay for prescription drugs in next week's Budget. Changes to the over-70s medical card means test and reduction in entitlement the home package of free TV licence, electricity and telephone allowances are being considered.

The cuts and new taxes will include:

* A €10-a-month cut in child benefit, which will drop from €140 to €130.
* An increase in differential rents for local authority tenants
* Unemployment benefit period to be cut from 12 to 9 months.
* A doubling of the 50 cent charge that medical card holders pay for medicines and other items that they get on prescription from pharmacies.
* Property tax of 300euro on a house worth 150,000Euro to be deducted through the PAYE system from employees

However there is to be no increase in income tax for those on salaries for those on salaries above 100,000euro per year.

This is an absolute scandal.

The presence of Labour leaders in Clonmel next Sunday must be marked by a strong protest

Seamus Healy TD​
There has been quite a concerted effort to get a protest going.

All in all though, and allowing for the obvious sensitivities around celebrating anything in the middle of the our woes, Labour do seem to have failed to mark the occasion in any significant way. A lack of confidence? Shame? Or just that the current leader has shallow roots in the party and that those around him are essentially mercenaries, and that these two factors mean that they fail to attach any real importance to Labour's history, being as they are intent on finishing the process of alienating the party entirely from its working class roots.
 

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Councillor Darren Ryan from Clonmel said as much last week,when he resigned from the party.
He couldnt understand why the plug was pulled on the centenary event,after a lot of planning.
Maybe it was the shame,many would say they have none.
Cllr; Ryan was scathing in his attack on the Labour Party,and obviously far from pleased in the direction it is heading.

Cllr. Darren Ryan resigns from Labour Party
 

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450,000 unemployed and not one decent policy after 18 months of government except closing the Vatican embassy,pushing for abortion and gay marriage? FFS where has the Labour party gone to?,

These liberal pension grabbing clowns calling themselves Labour are the greatest pretenders since Bertie thought he knew something about running a Country.
 

nonpartyboy

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450,000 unemployed and not one decent policy after 18 months of government except closing the Vatican embassy,pushing for abortion and gay marriage? FFS where has the Labour party gone to?,

These liberal pension grabbing clowns calling themselves Labour are the greatest pretenders since Bertie thought he knew something about running a Country.
They should be ashamed to say they actually represent workers....
 

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Is it not strange to read Gilmore waxing lyrical about the history of the Labour Party, given that much of his own political history was spent trying to destroy Labour?
 

stopdoingstuff

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Is it true that Labour Women are organizing a mass-ovulation as part of the event?
 

Cato

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Is it not strange to read Gilmore waxing lyrical about the history of the Labour Party, given that much of his own political history was spent trying to destroy Labour?
He could yet fulfil that ambition.
 

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Will Roisin Shortall be speaking?
 

The Herren

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I hear that the Irish Ambassador to the Vatican is opening the conference with mass and there will be an Abortion on Demand tent outside.
 

anationoceagain

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and yet...as a Labour voter often critcial of the party I sense a new purpose within the parliamentary party. Rabbite has been good on media lately, Burton seems to be gaining grudging admiration as well as Howlin. Gilmore has had to weather a storm from unfavourable media quarters, not helped by his preponderance of advisers, R Quinn's problem also. Bacik seems to have been measured lately, despite the reopening of the abortion debate. The showing of 14% in today's poll will be surprisingly welcome, especially given the dilution of their governing partner's support.
 

automaticforthepeople

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Is it not strange to read Gilmore waxing lyrical about the history of the Labour Party, given that much of his own political history was spent trying to destroy Labour?
Did the former Mayor of Clonmel Darren Ryan not spend most of his time in politics in WUAG as opposed to actually being a Labour member? In his resignation he also waxes lyrical about the values of Labour. should I go online and put a few bob on him as a future Labour deputy?
 

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and yet...as a Labour voter often critcial of the party I sense a new purpose within the parliamentary party. Rabbite has been good on media lately, Burton seems to be gaining grudging admiration as well as Howlin. Gilmore has had to weather a storm from unfavourable media quarters, not helped by his preponderance of advisers, R Quinn's problem also. Bacik seems to have been measured lately, despite the reopening of the abortion debate. The showing of 14% in today's poll will be surprisingly welcome, especially given the dilution of their governing partner's support.
Okay bud, here is the awful truth,

Rabbite has done nothing except follow what he has been told to do,name one thing he has achieved?
Burton is a total disappointment, no ID cards, no breakdown of spending, no incentives to get people working, an amazing non reformer, a very nice lady but not cut out to do the job.
Rory Quinn ? sure anyone could do that job with their hands tied behind their backs
Bacik is an Labour appointed extreme liberal senator with Zero traction with the electorate and Zero legislation ability.
Gilmore is a total windbag, all talk and no creativity or talent,

The Labour eejits have no ideas on how to create jobs, shops and businesses on main street in Ireland are going to the wall while the very people that espouse Labour are grabbing pensions and doing absolutely nothing.

In fact a new party should be started called "The Real Labour party" cos the only jobs these clowns are proposing are abortion clinics and civil registrars for gay couples? it is beyond a joke to think of Labour as anything else.

the simple fact is that there is not a lot of talent anywhere in the Dail, the Labour party are over, time for a new Labour party.
 

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I hear that the Irish Ambassador to the Vatican is opening the conference with mass and there will be an Abortion on Demand tent outside.
Will Bacik be adin in it?
 

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I hear that the Irish Ambassador to the Vatican is opening the conference with mass and there will be an Abortion on Demand tent outside.
Led by the man who tell kids ,keep your mouth shut if a catholic priest abuse's you.
 

anationoceagain

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Okay bud, here is the awful truth,

Rabbite has done nothing except follow what he has been told to do,name one thing he has achieved?
Burton is a total disappointment, no ID cards, no breakdown of spending, no incentives to get people working, an amazing non reformer, a very nice lady but not cut out to do the job.
Rory Quinn ? sure anyone could do that job with their hands tied behind their backs
Bacik is an Labour appointed extreme liberal senator with Zero traction with the electorate and Zero legislation ability.
Gilmore is a total windbag, all talk and no creativity or talent,

The Labour eejits have no ideas on how to create jobs, shops and businesses on main street in Ireland are going to the wall while the very people that espouse Labour are grabbing pensions and doing absolutely nothing.

In fact a new party should be started called "The Real Labour party" cos the only jobs these clowns are proposing are abortion clinics and civil registrars for gay couples? it is beyond a joke to think of Labour as anything else.

the simple fact is that there is not a lot of talent anywhere in the Dail, the Labour party are over, time for a new Labour party.
Some of what you say is true, some is just rehashed venom of the likes spun by certain media commentators. I have major problems with R Quinn's attempts to downgrade education for the disadvantaged, his department's subsidising segragationist fee paying schools and his plethora of advisers, but to say you could do the job with hands tied behind your back?

To say Labour is a busted flush is wrong. Their spin doctors will be happy with the recent poll. I went to a ULA meeting in a provincial town a while back out of curiosity. For all the so called outrage on the street, 90 odd % percent of the attendees there were trotskyite hacks masquerading behind front groups, hardly any locals. The ULA will never get critical mass. Rabbitte has been quietly impressive lately in his media appearances. Labour are getting more spin savvy; finally getting across the message of just what a treasonous economic legacy FF left us, and that SF economic policies are just plain populist rhetoric.

I am a traditonal Labour voter, proud of social democracy, and saddened by the way the Irish electorate greedily embraced the politics of neo conservative Thatcherite property porn economics. I believe Labour should have abstained from coalition. But now they're in, they're in.

People deride Gilmore and certain sections of the media gleefully seized upon the issue of his wife's job. But given the amount of people who resigned the whip he's actually done a decent job in preventing complete disharmony. I think the more interesting factor at play here is how the newly galvanised right wing of FG are acting. The recent letter by some backbenchers attacking the CPA was a case in point: is it the beginning of a potential right wing threat to Kenny.

Poster are assuming the budget will pass easily..it may not But in the round, the recent polls suggets that the electorate are actually giving Labour rather than FG the credit for sailing the ship of state through the FF created turmoil. For all the faux media hype- and don't get me wrong, austerity is a disaster and will be needed to be tackled by some radical initiative( maybe a youth job scheme)-people seem willing to let the coalition, and perhaps surprisingly enough, Labour, the mandate to continue as was
 

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If the event starts at 1.30pm, why is the protest timed for 11am ?
 

Cato

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If the event starts at 1.30pm, why is the protest timed for 11am ?
I wondered about that myself. Perhaps they're hoping to take a run at it.
 

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If the event starts at 1.30pm, why is the protest timed for 11am ?

To give the protestors time to protest, change their minds and later join the party so that they can then commemorate 100 years? Its fair to say that some of those inside the tent in Clonmel will be people who in the 80's had no time for Labour under Spring. The current crop of protestors will be no diferent.
 
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