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Labour in talks with Greens to form alliance?

jmcc

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Seems that RTE is reporting that Labour is in talks with the Greens to form some kind of "Left" alliance.
Labour in talks with Greens to form alliance - RTÉ News

The image isn't the most flattering and the women flanking Howlin don't look too pleased.


Is this a non-story or does Howlin believe that Labour is "Left"?
 


dresden8

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They have so much in common.

Labour drove their party onto the rocks supporting FG while the Greens drove their party onto the rocks supporting FF.

What's the Irish for "Mudguard". Great party name that.
 
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Speaking at a post-election meeting at Labour's Headquarters, Brendan Howlin said he would also be interested in working with the Social Democrats in such a way.
How could the SDs possibly work with Labour when they have diametrically opposite views on the supreme issue of our times, the question that will define us as a country in the 21st century, the veritable zeitfrage of our generation?

The 3 yoyos per week on water charges? :shock:
 

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Seems that RTE is reporting that Labour is in talks with the Greens to form some kind of "Left" alliance.
Labour in talks with Greens to form alliance - RTÉ News

The image isn't the most flattering and the women flanking Howlin don't look too pleased.


Is this a non-story or does Howlin believe that Labour is "Left"?
Labour certainly believe themselves to be a left wing party, or perhaps to be more accurate they identify as a left wing party. They've long claimed to be a party committed to social democracy, as the found undiluted socialism a touch rough on the stomach.

Yes, from my own conversations with people in Labour, some at a reasonably high level within the party, they do hope to form a group with the Greens and, although this comes with several issues, they also hope to include the SDs. The latter, though, are proving hesitant in accepting Labour's advances.
 

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Interesting. But Brendan has hardly shown that he is anywhere "leftish" in the last couple of years(??)
 

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Both of those ladies are trying to decide whether to stab him or not.
 

dresden8

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Would like to be in the room when Howling tries to make it all up again with Shortall.

She should tell the poison dwarf to fnck right off.
 

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Would like to be in the room when Howling tries to make it all up again with Shortall.

She should tell the poison dwarf to fnck right off.
Howlin's main problem with forming a grouping with the SDs may lie less with Shortall than with his own members: they absolutely loath Shortall.
 

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The Soc Dems are diseased spoofomaniacs ... members of the "say nice things" blue skies brigade who've no interest in getting their hands dirty in the trenches of detail ...they are a middle class party of permanent opposition, who can swan around the cocktail circuit ...not particularly effective as a party of opposition either...but they help the shallow feel morally smug

Greens are good people ... but have people of the liberal economic persuasion in them ...so not sure they'll like the alignment

cYp
 

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stephen donnelly is a good speaker cYp
A lot smarter than most of the dregs in the dail frankly.
You have to admit it
 

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Both of those ladies are trying to decide whether to stab him or not.
The one on the right is thinking "I shouldnt have had the egg mayonaise"
 

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stephen donnelly is a good speaker cYp
A lot smarter than most of the dregs in the dail frankly.
You have to admit it
Whats all this ************************e about being a good speaker when what he is saying doesnt get votes for the party? He walked away from a chance of power where he could do something. Another one sitting on the fence and great at spouting what should be done but wont take the opportunity to do it
 

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Eamon Ryan is not left leaning.
 

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stephen donnelly is a good speaker cYp
A lot smarter than most of the dregs in the dail frankly.
You have to admit it
A good speaker, but much of what he says is complete spoofery.
 

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Eamon Ryan is not left leaning.
He seems to think he is, unfortunately.

The Greens seem to have forgotten that it is a fundamental concept of the Green approach to be neither Left nor Right. They are supposed to come at problems with a holistic approach, choosing solutions based on common sense, fairness, and sustainability, rather than some outdated ideological polarisation dating back to another age.

I used to laugh at certain Green Party members who were very upset that the Green Party wasn't grandstanding on the water charges issue with all the freeloaders on the left.

Paying for excess usage/waste of water is a key Green policy. The Left-Greens' heads were exploding that they couldn't go out to play on this.
 

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Just to mention, Ciaran Cuffe is Chair of DCC Transport Committee.

That group just recently reversed a car ban on Bachelor's Walk (part of the "Plaza Plan), so that cars could access the Arnott's Car Park off O'Connell Street. Sustainability my foot.

Anyway, the car parks are ruling Dublin City now, and not even a Greenie can do anything about it.

No point in any alliances. They can achieve very little anyway in the face of big business.
 

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An alliance of failed coalition junior partners - maybe Noel Grealish should join up with them to give them tips on driving a junior party's agenda through.
These two parties' governments quadrupled our national debt in 9 years.
Each saw their role to soften the impact of the larger party but not to reform.
Both stood by as discredited ministers clung on (O'Dea, Reilly)
What positive legacy have the parties left? Bicycles on trains and granting the Irish people the permission to change our own constitution.
I hope they do form an alliance.
 

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Just to mention, Ciaran Cuffe is Chair of DCC Transport Committee.

That group just recently reversed a car ban on Bachelor's Walk (part of the "Plaza Plan), so that cars could access the Arnott's Car Park off O'Connell Street. Sustainability my foot.

Anyway, the car parks are ruling Dublin City now, and not even a Greenie can do anything about it.

No point in any alliances. They can achieve very little anyway in the face of big business.

The Car Ban was (and is) on O'Connell Street, not Bachelors' Walk.

It was a very sensible and understandable amendment which still accomplishes 99% of what was intended.

Big(?) Business = Rate Payers = VAT payers = PAYE/PRSI payers.

Or maybe you think there should be no economic activity in the City Centre?


Bachelor's Walk car ban plan reversed - RTÉ News
 

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