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Labour Seats - the run down


GÓM

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Those in RED are probably not going to run in 2012, those in BLUE may or may not, those in GREEN probably will run in 2012. Assumptions made on age, health and previous statements to that effect.

Connaught-Ulster
Galway West - Michael D Higgins

Dublin
Dublin Central: Joe Costello
Dublin Mid-West: Joanna Tuffy
Dublin North-East: Tommy Broughan
Dublin North-West: Róisín Shortall
Dublin South-Central: Mary Upton
Dublin South-East: Ruairi Quinn
Dublin South-West: Pat Rabbitte
Dublin West: Joan Burton
Dún Laoghaire: Eamon Gilmore

Leinster
Kildare North: Emmet Stagg
Kildare South: Jack Wall
Longford-Westmeath: Willie Penrose
Wexford: Brendan Howlin
Wicklow: Liz McManus

Munster
Cork East : Sean Sherlock
Cork North-Central : Kathleen Lynch
Cork South-Central : Ciaran Lynch
Limerick East : Jan O'Sullivan
Waterford : Brian O'Shea
 

Boss Croker

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GÓM said:
Those in RED are probably not going to run in 2012, those in BLUE may or may not, those in GREEN probably will run in 2012. Assumptions made on age, health and previous statements to that effect.

Connaught-Ulster
Galway West - Michael D Higgins

Dublin
Dublin Central: Joe Costello
Dublin Mid-West: Joanna Tuffy
Dublin North-East: Tommy Broughan
Dublin North-West: Róisín Shortall
Dublin South-Central: Mary Upton
Dublin South-East: Ruairi Quinn
Dublin South-West: Pat Rabbitte
Dublin West: Joan Burton
Dún Laoghaire: Eamon Gilmore

Leinster
Kildare North: Emmet Stagg
Kildare South: Jack Wall
Longford-Westmeath: Willie Penrose
Wexford: Brendan Howlin
Wicklow: Liz McManus

Munster
Cork East : Sean Sherlock
Cork North-Central : Kathleen Lynch
Cork South-Central : Ciaran Lynch
Limerick East : Jan O'Sullivan
Waterford : Brian O'Shea
And your point is... Graham?
 

GÓM

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Labour faces many challenges in 2012. NO t only are many of the unsuccessful not going to be running in 2012. But there will be some heavy weights in need of replacing also.
 

Sligoboy

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GÓM said:
Labour faces many challenges in 2012. NO t only are many of the unsuccessful not going to be running in 2012. But there will be some heavy weights in need of replacing also.
Its a difficult transition. We had to purge a dinosaur in Sligo/North Leitrim and now have to rebuild. But at least we are in the position to do that and allow young blood up through the ranks for the first time in 15yrs.

Its tough but worth in the long run.
 

jerryp

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I agree totally with the original poster and was going to post somethin similar when the dust had settled. It is essential that work begins immediately on a strong line-up and we can begin by ensuring that we have credible candidates in the locals ( 2 years ).
 

seamasdefaoite

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we should also look at achieving a second seat with rabbitte in DSW. i suggest marie corr
 

White Rose

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The age profile of the Labour Party is worryingly old
Where are the Lucinda Creighton's who appeal to the younger voter?
 

factual

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White Rose said:
The age profile of the Labour Party is worryingly old
Where are the Lucinda Creighton's who appeal to the younger voter?
Agreed this is a problem Labour has.
 

The Red Rose of Cork

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Hopefully there can be a serious discussion about future direction and reenergising the membership at the summer school in Galway.
 

hex

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Unless Labour screw things up royally - Aodhan O Riordain should be a shoe-in for Joe Costello's seat. He's hard-working, experienced, qualified, well-liked and exactly the sort of candidate that the party should be looking for.
 

NEW LABOUR

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the party has adressed this somewhat with the age profile of its seanad nominees.

there needs to be a root and branch look at the party as a whole.
Labour was the only party that stayed stagnent during the term of the last government.
I believe rabbitt is still the one to move the party forward, but has been hindered by the old guard.
He now needs to make difficult decisions as how to relieve the party of its far left ( communist) factions and to make the party attractive to the bulging middle class while retaining its social concience.
 
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Labour organisation should be strong enough in Dublin Central and Dublin South East to hold seats if Quinn and Costello don't run again. A O'Riordan and Carr joint ticket in Central and Humphries and Quinn JNR joint ticket in DSE will see party hold it's seats there. Not so sure about Waterford and Galway West however. If O'Shea doesn't run again, the seat is likely to fall to Coffey or Cullinane, while Higgins retirement will leave opening for O'Brolochain; had Catherine Connolly not been so impatient, her chance would have come in 2012.
 

Meursault

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I for one am glad Labour dont have a Lucinda Creighton. Did she really say she thought Miss D should be restrained from leaving the country?

McNamara(?) who ran in the by-election in Killdare North would seem to be a good replacement for Stagg. They have lots of cllr's (including some Politics.ie members) in places like Dublin South East, Dublin Central and even Waterford. Not sure how strong the name recognition is for them though.
 

cllr

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there are somevery interestung days ahead and Labour is poised for significant growth.
 

Tigrrr

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FYI this is not a colourblind friendly list!!

Nevertheless, I think there are major challenges ahead for the Labour Party, a party which one would have expected to have no problems in attracting strong, intelligent young candidates given its prominence at third level institutions.
Why is that not the case?
 

wombat

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Labour have made the same mistake that FG made in 2002, they have offended their core support. They no longer represent the industrial workers. They are seen as a party of schoolteachers and lawyers. Nothing wrong with teachers but where are the tradesmen. John Mulvihill in East Cork was an old style Labour candidate, someone who could relate to people who work for US multinationals, travel long distance to work and know they don't have a job for life. Forget about Breakfast roll man, he'll be gone within 2 years. Intel is where its at, Dell are already looking to Poland, these people need someone to represent their interest. In all the discussions on the Corrib gas field, who has defended the interest of the workers who will service the plant. Put it offshore and you're looking at flying crews 60 mls offshore , 365 days per year in helicopters. Why has the Labour party not raised the safety issue for these workers? because they would rather represent retired schoolteachers.
 

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Nevertheless, I think there are major challenges ahead for the Labour Party, a party which one would have expected to have no problems in attracting strong, intelligent young candidates given its prominence at third level institutions.
Why is that not the case?
Prominence at third Level institutions does not necessarily translate into electoral success. How many students have a clue how the real world works? A lot of them are dilettantes who are attracted to left-wing politics but who drop it when that bank job is offered
 

Rocky

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Tigrrr said:
FYI this is not a colourblind friendly list!!

Nevertheless, I think there are major challenges ahead for the Labour Party, a party which one would have expected to have no problems in attracting strong, intelligent young candidates given its prominence at third level institutions.
Why is that not the case?
Labour’s problem in third level institutions is that Labour Youth is dominated by Communists/Socialists etc who generally leave after college because they become disillusioned with the senior party and these people drive away all the more moderate members who want to get involved in Labour and who often end up in YFG or the YG’s. This leaves Labour with no one.
 

wombat

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Again, why the focus on 3rd level? the trades are being left to the tender mercies of FF and their developer cronies. Breakfast roll man thinks his interest is the same as the Cowboy builders. That's Labour failing.
 
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