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Lady Mosley

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Just listened to this interesting interview, a Desert island Discs program from December 1 1989 with Lady Diana Mosley.

She knew Hitler very well and doesn't regret meeting him as he was 'so interesting'.

She and Mosley were married when they first met and fell in love.

An amazing voice from history and well worth a listen whatever your view of the personalities involved.

[video=youtube;QhFu5HNs9xs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhFu5HNs9xs[/video]
 


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There are several interviews with her on YouTube. God, that accent!

[video=youtube;lzkbouKG830]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzkbouKG830[/video]

The upper classes considered it very non-U to ever admit you were wrong about somebody, and Diana Mosley quite disgracefully refused to recant on Hitler

She also defended Mosley and his thugs to the death. She remained totally infatuated with Mosley all her life, having left her millionaire husband Bryan Guinness and all her literary and cultured English friend to live in seclusion in France with Mosley--they were shunned socially in England

Despite having little or no formal education like most of the Mitford sisters, she was, like them, a gifted writer. Her book The Pursuit of Laughter and a book of literary reviews whose title escapes me, are worth reading.
 

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Just listened to this interesting interview, a Desert island Discs program from December 1 1989 with Lady Diana Mosley.

She knew Hitler very well and doesn't regret meeting him as he was 'so interesting'.

She and Mosley were married when they first met and fell in love.

An amazing voice from history and well worth a listen whatever your view of the personalities involved.

[video=youtube;QhFu5HNs9xs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhFu5HNs9xs[/video]
Cut to the chase, besides the bible and Shakespeare what reading matter would she have on her Island?

What was her luxury item?
 

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[video=youtube;rd7LcaXZzUs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd7LcaXZzUs[/video]
 

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There are several interviews with her on YouTube. God, that accent!

[video=youtube;lzkbouKG830]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzkbouKG830[/video]

The upper classes considered it very non-U to ever admit you were wrong about somebody, and Diana Mosley quite disgracefully refused to recant on Hitler

She also defended Mosley and his thugs to the death. She remained totally infatuated with Mosley all her life, having left her millionaire husband Bryan Guinness and all her literary and cultured English friend to live in seclusion in France with Mosley--they were shunned socially in England

Despite having little or no formal education like most of the Mitford sisters, she was, like them, a gifted writer. Her book The Pursuit of Laughter and a book of literary reviews whose title escapes me, are worth reading.
She says the Blackshirts were attacked wherever they went that was why they fought back.
 

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She says the Blackshirts were attacked wherever they went that was why they fought back.

She said many things, some of them vile: "Maybe the Jews should have gone somewhere like Uganda...very empty, and a lovely climate.."

Vile things are no less vile because they are said by a beautiful woman with an upper-class drawl.

She was married to Mosley in Goebbels' house with Hitler as a guest.

The Mitford sisters were spoiled, restless upper class , clueless girls with a massive sense of entitlement, not enough to do to pass the time, and that rather idiotic aristocratic belief that serious things are "shriekingly funny" when they are happening to the lower orders.

That might all be excusable in impressionable, sheltered young girls.

But into her nineties Diana Mosley refused to disown her past, criticise Hitler, or listen to any criticism of her beloved Mosley.

None of them could ever admit they might have been wrong about anything. Only the servants behaved like that. True to her upbringing Diana Mosley was deaf to all other views but her own.
 

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[video=youtube;ShRf1svMcuA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShRf1svMcuA[/video]
 

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[video=youtube;ShRf1svMcuA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShRf1svMcuA[/video]

The writer told MI5: "I would like to conclude by saying that I never had any intention of assisting the enemy and that I have suffered a great deal of mental pain as the result of my action."MI5 decided that the broadcasts were not pro-German and had been unlikely to assist the enemy, and decided against prosecution.
However, a memo of a 1946 meeting between an M15 officer and the then director of public prosecutions, Sir Theobald Mathew, reveals that his case was re-evaluated after the war. "The director said that he now takes the view that, if Wodehouse ever comes to this country, he should be prosecuted," the officer recorded.
Wodehouse moved to the US in 1945 and lived there until his death in 1975, aged 93.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/aug/26/pg-wodehouse-denied-collaborator :rolleyes:
 

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There's a drama doc about it. Poor old Wodehouse was out of his depth.

I like his description of Bertie Wooster's take on Moseley, or Spode if you like:

"The trouble with you Spode is that just because you have succeeded in inducing a handful of halfwits to disfigure the London scene by going about in black shorts, you think you're someone. You hear them shouting 'Heil Spode' and you imagine it's the voice of the people.

That is where you make your bloomer.

What the voice of the people is saying is 'Look at that frightful ass Spode swenking around in footer bags' "
 

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She said many things, some of them vile: "Maybe the Jews should have gone somewhere like Uganda...very empty, and a lovely climate.."

Vile things are no less vile because they are said by a beautiful woman with an upper-class drawl.

She was married to Mosley in Goebbels' house with Hitler as a guest.

The Mitford sisters were spoiled, restless upper class , clueless girls with a massive sense of entitlement, not enough to do to pass the time, and that rather idiotic aristocratic belief that serious things are "shriekingly funny" when they are happening to the lower orders.

That might all be excusable in impressionable, sheltered young girls.

But into her nineties Diana Mosley refused to disown her past, criticise Hitler, or listen to any criticism of her beloved Mosley.

None of them could ever admit they might have been wrong about anything. Only the servants behaved like that. True to her upbringing Diana Mosley was deaf to all other views but her own.
I must say I didn't get that from the comments I heard.

Where did she say the Uganda quote?

I heard her say she didn't believe it was 6 million but whatever the numbers 'it was still inexcusable ', which you would think would placate some but obviously not everyone.
 

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Collaboration has always happened. The Brits didn't object when we did it with them. Way too much has been made about Wodehouse.
 

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Oswald Mosley was both terribly flawed and terribly brilliant, he could have easily been the greatest leader the British Labour Party ever had if his ego had not got in the way. Something that a lot of people dont know was that he was a supporter of Irish Republicanism from the time of the Tan War. Jorian Jenks and Henry Williamson who were associated with Mosley I find more interesting than him.
 
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Oswald Mosley was both a terribly flawed and terribly brilliant, he could have easily been the greatest leader the British Labour Party ever had if his ego had not got in the way. Something that a lot of people dont know was that he was a supporter of Irish Republicanism from the time of the Tan War. Jorian Jenks and Henry Williamson who were associated with Mosley I find more interesting than him.
Right so he would have turned the UK Labour Party into a National Socialist Party at the very least sympathetic to Mussolini and Hitler.
 

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Fascism was fashionable among a section of the British aristocracy before WW2, who saw Communism as the real threat including the Duke of Wellington and perhaps the Duke of Hamilton and even King Edward VIII/Duke of Windsor. The difference is very few continued in this attitude during the war (some supported Hitler beforehand because they thought he might be a useful ally against Communism). Remember Rudolf Hess asked to be taken to see the Duke of Hamilton. Also interestingly witnesses reporting seeing runway lights come on when the plane approached.

I personally believe the Brits lured Rudolf Hess to Britain using Hamilton as negoti-bate.

Its also interesting that Hess was forbidden to discuss the flight to Britain for the rest of his life. Why would that be if there was no MI5/6 plot to lure him to Britain? The Soviets always suspected that there actually was a deal in the offing.
 
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Right so he would have turned the UK Labour Party into a National Socialist Party at the very least sympathetic to Mussolini and Hitler.
You do know that he was a leading figure in the British Labour Party which he joined in 1924? It was his proposals being blocked as too radical by the Labour/Liberal coalition in 1930 that led him out of it and towards Fascism.
 

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It wouldn't be Sunday without the Nazi reading group.
 


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