Latest excuse by Gardai for a 1,000000+ fake breath tests will make rubbish of all Garda crime statistics

venusian

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Latest excuse by Gardai for a 1,000000+ fake breath tests will make rubbish of all Garda crime statistics

As reported in the Sunday Times the joke "investigation" to find a plausible fairy story for the Gardai's million plus fake breath tests will laughingly blame an "input error" with wrong account codes being used resulting in the "accidental" Garda breathalyser scandal:roll::roll::roll:

If the inept senior Garda management think that they can explain away the scandal as reported below it will really blow up in their faces. Never mind the scandal of the fake breath test figures their excuse will now call into question all of the reported Garda crime statistics and make absolute nonsense out of them. Their excuse means all data entry figures would have resulted in errors either being hugely under or over inflated. If they really imagine that they can explain the scandal in this way, the breath test scandal will pale into insignificance as all reported Garda crime figures will be very wrong for the same reason. :roll:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/code-error-inflated-breath-data-2lfhmptrc
An internal garda investigation into how the number of breathalyser tests was overestimated by almost 1m over a five-year period has discovered that a systematic issue with data entry is likely to be a significant factor.
An inquiry by assistant commissioner Michael O’Sullivan has uncovered that various types of offences were accidentally recorded as roadside breath tests at the Garda Information Services Centre (GISC) in Castlebar, Mayo.
Staff at the centre are believed to have wrongly entered codes used to record breathalyser test data instead of codes used to record a variety of other offences. The error is said to have resulted in inflated numbers of roadside breath tests being recorded on Pulse, the garda’s IT system
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Mind you they are haunting the roads recently down our way.
That aside.
This is the ultimate in implausible bolloxology!
 

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It's Ireland ffs... but we have a great new leader now, who happens to be gay.. everything will change.. Actually couldn't give a continental flying fook, about any 'stats'. Crime or otherwise. :roll:
 

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The Gardai are the biggest gangsters in Ireland. Let's not forget these guys where prepared to break the law to further enrich themselves only a short few months ago. They have zero credibility.
 

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The Gardai are the biggest gangsters in Ireland. Let's not forget these guys where prepared to break the law to further enrich themselves only a short few months ago. They have zero credibility.
Break the law to enrich ?? what was that one again?
 
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cops are revenue collectors for the state and enforcers of various motoring protection rackets and pointless expensive bureaucracies.
Things like the inflated private insurance costs racket and nct

Put tax and insurance costs on the cost of petrol
Much more equitable and will wipe a few of these bureaucracies and scams out
and free up gardai for actual police work catching white collar criminals perhaps? (hah!)
 

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Mind you they are haunting the roads recently down our way.
That aside.
This is the ultimate in implausible bolloxology!
If it turned out to be halve true it would genuinely make the rest of the Gardai's crime figures implausible bolloxology as well!
 

venusian

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The Gardai are the biggest gangsters in Ireland. Let's not forget these guys where prepared to break the law to further enrich themselves only a short few months ago. They have zero credibility.
Hmm.....methinks the government are demonstrably the biggest ganagsters in Ireland!
 

venusian

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cops are revenue collectors for the state and enforcers of various motoring protection rackets and pointless expensive bureaucracies.
Things like the inflated private insurance costs racket and nct

Put tax and insurance costs on the cost of petrol
Much more equitable and will wipe a few of these bureaucracies and scams out
and free up gardai for actual police work catching white collar criminals perhaps? (hah!)
What a perfectly sensible, fair and practical idea you have, undoubtedly the resident idiots in the Dail will be made aware of it by their paid trolls with the result that it will be blatantly ignored....
 

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Amazing that Wexford had nearly no discrepancy in its figures.

Other areas were out by 400%

Small discrepancy in Wexford breath tests - WexfordPeople.ie

How do they explain that?:oops:
So the logic concludes that Wexford Gardai and the others who have no discrepancy use a different IT system to the rest of the country.

The old reliable systemic failure , the best friend an incompetent/corrupt public servant could ever have.
 

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This effort at explanation is absolutely without credibility. If the Garda Information Services unit at Castlebar were mis-coding other unrelated crime or suspected crime figures against roadside tests in error it would show up very quickly in the first month that the errors were occurring.

It would also imply that all other coding of data events on Pulse were hugely under-reported. To claim that the Gardai at Castlebar did not have any clue this was happening over an extended period of time means simply that the unit had no way of detecting an anomaly in data entry on a fairly vast scale.

This isn't actually credible. Any branch of any organisation handling large coding of data jobs would be able to tell pretty quickly whether there was something wrong and it would become obvious unless they had no audit or management processes at all and I find that pretty hard to believe.

This is just nonsense.

Twenty years ago I worked at night for just such a data centre for a few months after coming back from travelling just for something different to do and the systems were set up in such a way that any erroneous entries of data and mis-coding would throw out an error somewhere in the system which could be traced back to the individual making the error. The senior people could tell just by looking at the flow of inputs whether there was something not right.
 

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I think what the investigators have done is look along the processing system for anywhere they can claim errors were made and lumped the whole issue at that point.

This directs attention away from numerous gardai sitting in the station blowing into test kits and faking the figures.

Either that or the people at Castlebar knew the gardai up and down the country were faking tests and not even bothering to code or deliberately screwing up the inputs to the system to disguise the problem further.
 

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Dangerous territory here - a bit of gauntlet to the new leader potentially.

IF we're made swallow this then it says that the Gardai are no, almost officially, beyond the law. If Varadkar let's this go he's being called out as yet another pussy politician without the balls to tackle what has become the biggest threat to our democracy.

As someone posted above, they already got the lion's share of any free cash going by threatening to strike...two weeks before a report showed that they were already very well paid.

Now there's a litany of reports, inquiries and cases about their incompetence, corruption and embezzlement that seem to be falling on deaf ears among the "old" cabinet, so it'll be interesting to see how the "new" cabinet deals with them as a marker for the next 4 years.
 

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In fairness it is entirely possible, I have worked in places were the staff are completely untrained on correct data entry, it really depends on management and training.
Which would explain variations from different districts.
 

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Sounds like a load of rubbish.
If the wrong code was used in making entries for offences other than drink-driving, where is the evidence of a huge drop in records of such offences ?
 

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I think the dogs in the street know that this was done to report falsified activity when there was none so Gardai got "free" overtime, not by incorrectly allocating other activity on Pulse.

This is a very precarious position for our shiny new government - risk the wrath of the Gardai or set a marker.
 


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