Le Squeeze - Barnier goes large

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/28/brexit-analysis-michel-barnier-turns-screws-theresa-may-brussels/


The European Commission has turned the screws on Theresa May in a bid to force her to use her flagship brexit speech on Friday to cave in on Brussels’s red lines over the Irish border and finally set out her vision of Britain’s future relationship with the EU in politically contentious detail.

With a maximalist stance on theIrish border, Gibraltar and the European Court of Justice, the UK fears the document risks unleashing constitutional and political demons that UK sources fear the EU has dangerously underestimated.

Mrs May is expected to hit back at Brussels for meddling in existential UK internal affairs.



In Michel's 120-pager, sent by my spies in bruxelles, there are 73 mentions of Ireland...

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/draft_withdrawal_agreement.pdf
 


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.. the weenie is on page 100:

Chapter III Common regulatory area

Article 3Establishment of a common regulatory area

A common regulatory area comprising the Union and the United Kingdom in respect of Northern Ireland is hereby established. The common regulatory area shall constitute an area without internal borders in which the free movement of goods is ensured and North-South cooperation protected in accordance with this Chapter.
 

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/28/brexit-analysis-michel-barnier-turns-screws-theresa-may-brussels/


The European Commission has turned the screws on Theresa May in a bid to force her to use her flagship brexit speech on Friday to cave in on Brussels’s red lines over the Irish border and finally set out her vision of Britain’s future relationship with the EU in politically contentious detail.

With a maximalist stance on theIrish border, Gibraltar and the European Court of Justice, the UK fears the document risks unleashing constitutional and political demons that UK sources fear the EU has dangerously underestimated.

Mrs May is expected to hit back at Brussels for meddling in existential UK internal affairs.



In Michel's 120-pager, sent by my spies in bruxelles, there are 73 mentions of Ireland...

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/draft_withdrawal_agreement.pdf
But, but, but Leo's agreement wasn't worth the paper it was written on, the EU don't think we're important, etc, etc, etc.

It was the referendum that unleashed 'constitutional and political demons' and it's the Brits who need to leash them again.
 

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That would effectively mean NI having a separate status to the rest of the UK?

It would be under the common regulatory authority of the UK & the EU.

Can't see the DUP liking that.
 

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But, but, but Leo's agreement wasn't worth the paper it was written on, the EU don't think we're important, etc, etc, etc.

It was the referendum that unleashed 'constitutional and political demons' and it's the Brits who need to leash them again.
Exactly. And all that this document spells out is, what will happen *if* the UK fails to make plans for their preferred scenario of a customs agreement with the EU after Brexit. May's reaction today would suggest they aren't serious about that so called preferred scenario at all.
 

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That would effectively mean NI having a separate status to the rest of the UK?

It would be under the common regulatory authority of the UK & the EU.

Can't see the DUP liking that.
The Scots will like it even less..

Imagine, you have the North being given a deal that the biggest party up there claims it doesn't want.. and Scotland being refused the same deal when its biggest party does want it

Oh the Empire it's finished....
 

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/28/brexit-analysis-michel-barnier-turns-screws-theresa-may-brussels/


The European Commission has turned the screws on Theresa May in a bid to force her to use her flagship brexit speech on Friday to cave in on Brussels’s red lines over the Irish border and finally set out her vision of Britain’s future relationship with the EU in politically contentious detail.

With a maximalist stance on theIrish border, Gibraltar and the European Court of Justice, the UK fears the document risks unleashing constitutional and political demons that UK sources fear the EU has dangerously underestimated.

Mrs May is expected to hit back at Brussels for meddling in existential UK internal affairs.



In Michel's 120-pager, sent by my spies in bruxelles, there are 73 mentions of Ireland...

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/draft_withdrawal_agreement.pdf
The "Common Regulatory Area" is a Deep and Comprehensive Free Trade Area under a different name, and where NI additionally remains in the Customs Union.

A DCFTA is the hardest possible Brexit that won't absolutely wreck the British economy. A DCFTA also only requires visa free travel between members. So the UK as a whole will likely end up joining the Common Regulatory Area.
 

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The Scots will like it even less..

Imagine, you have the North being given a deal that the biggest party up there claims it doesn't want.. and Scotland being refused the same deal when its biggest party does want it

Oh the Empire it's finished....
This Common Regulatory Area isn't as great as it sounds, it only covers things like trade in electricity and milk, but has little to say about services.

Just the absolute barest minimum needed to ensure no border on the islands of Ireland and uphold the GFA.
 

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When you have them by the Orange/Red, White & Blue balls (May included) their hearts and minds will soon follow.
 

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The Scots will like it even less..

Imagine, you have the North being given a deal that the biggest party up there claims it doesn't want.. and Scotland being refused the same deal when its biggest party does want it

Oh the Empire it's finished....
And all entirely self inflicted. My schadenfreude is beginning to itch.
 

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This Common Regulatory Area isn't as great as it sounds, it only covers things like trade in electricity and milk, but has little to say about services.

Just the absolute barest minimum needed to ensure no border on the islands of Ireland and uphold the GFA.
So while we tuck into a three course dinner they'll at least have their pack of Walkers Crisps, Brussel Sprouts flavour.
 

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It is only a draft , you can be sure they are busily redrafting it now as we post after the strong rebuke it got off London this morning.
 

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/02/28/brexit-analysis-michel-barnier-turns-screws-theresa-may-brussels/


The European Commission has turned the screws on Theresa May in a bid to force her to use her flagship brexit speech on Friday to cave in on Brussels’s red lines over the Irish border and finally set out her vision of Britain’s future relationship with the EU in politically contentious detail.

With a maximalist stance on theIrish border, Gibraltar and the European Court of Justice, the UK fears the document risks unleashing constitutional and political demons that UK sources fear the EU has dangerously underestimated.

Mrs May is expected to hit back at Brussels for meddling in existential UK internal affairs.



In Michel's 120-pager, sent by my spies in bruxelles, there are 73 mentions of Ireland...

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/draft_withdrawal_agreement.pdf
Maybe they want to bring this govt down now. They are such a sh1tshow for a multitude of reasons they can hardly think that the alternatives can be any worse.
That would be good TBH unless it stirs up nationalism and causes a pro-Brexit backlash. That would be irrational, cutting off your nose to spite your face type stuff but, well, so is Brexit.
 

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It is only a draft , you can be sure they are busily redrafting it now as we post after the strong rebuke it got off London this morning.
I wouldn't be so sure. This is the agreement the UK signed up to in December whether they realise or not. The U.K. Made this mess. The EU has offered a worst case scenario in this "common regulatory area" stopgap. It is up to the UK to create a solution. Throwing a hissy fit in Westminster today would suggest there is no solution coming.
 

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The "Common Regulatory Area" is a Deep and Comprehensive Free Trade Area under a different name, and where NI additionally remains in the Customs Union.

A DCFTA is the hardest possible Brexit that won't absolutely wreck the British economy. A DCFTA also only requires visa free travel between members. So the UK as a whole will likely end up joining the Common Regulatory Area.
?

Never even heard of this till now. Only heard of CU/SM/EFTA.
 

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So while we tuck into a three course dinner they'll at least have their pack of Walkers Crisps, Brussel Sprouts flavour.
A Ukraine-style agreement would be more like McDonalds or Eddie Rockets than a packet of crisps, depending on how good the terms are.
 

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https://www.politico.eu/article/michel-barnier-attempts-to-jolt-uk-into-brexit-action/

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5691179/brexit-northern-ireland-michel-barnier-hard-border-uk-annex/

The Sun:

...a fuming Mrs May insisted today that there's no way that will ever happen.
She said during Prime Minister's questions this lunchtime that the proposals would threaten the "constitutional integrity" of the UK and that "no Prime Minister could ever agree to it".
The EU's idea would mean that Northern Ireland would be part of the customs "territory of the Union" - not the UK.
And the province would have to cooperate "with those rules of the Union's internal market and the customs union".
Mr Barnier said the plans would mean that goods and people could continue to move freely between the Republic of Ireland and the North, and it would "protect the Good Friday Agreement in all its dimensions."
The Brussels boss will discuss it with the other 27 EU countries before putting it formally on the table in talks with Britain.
And a furious showdown is on the cards for when he meets Northern Irish leaders Arlene Foster and Michelle O'Neill to talk about the plans next week.
Mr Barnier described it as a "backstop" - but Tories and the DUP are furiously opposed to anything that could split the UK in two.
 


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