Leo Varadkar and Unionism

McSlaggart

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I was wondering what do unionists make of the Varadkar?

“Britain, having unilaterally taken the customs union and single market off the table, before we move to phase two talks on trade we want taken off the table any suggestion that there will be a physical border, a hard border, new barriers to trade on the island of Ireland.”

Varadkar

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/17/irish-pm-brexit-backing-politicians-did-not-think-things-through

With this he appears to be following a US maxim of "speak softly and carry a big (EU) stick".
 


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Varadkar ought to stop obsessing over the border, it's getting a bit tedious at this stage.
 

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Varadkar ought to stop obsessing over the border, it's getting a bit tedious at this stage.
Yes, Mr Varadkar. Please stop obsessing over the most important political and economic issue facing this island in decades. :roll:
 

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Anyway, to answer the question in the title, they don't like him - at all.
 

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Yes, Mr Varadkar. Please stop obsessing over the most important political and economic issue facing this island in decades. :roll:

TBF, his obsession with SF, together with his supporters, is much more intense.

Not much difference between him and Mehole........ffs even senior Tory's are saying it publicly.:lol:
 

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TBF, his obsession with SF, together with his supporters, is much more intense.

Not much difference between him and Mehole........ffs even senior Tory's are saying it publicly.:lol:
Going by the SF Ard-Fheis speeches and tweets tonight, the obsession seems pretty mutual. Perhaps, deep down, it's actually.....

 

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Going by the SF Ard-Fheis speeches and tweets tonight, the obsession seems pretty mutual. Perhaps, deep down, it's actually.....



That comment would suggest to me you know little about party politics pal.:lol:
 

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It said on Newsnight Friday that he insists that NIs relationship with the EU Single Market and Customs Union must remain equivalent to now. That can only happen in one of two ways: either by moving the border checks and customs duties to the Irish sea, or by the UK remaining in the Customs Union and Single Market. I think Varadkar's position is too inflexible and undermines the peace process.

The nearest parallel to Brexit is the withdrawal of Greenland from the EEC in 1985 while it still remained a Danish autonomous territory. So the govt should investigate that as a model.


.....Greenland is one of the Overseas Countries and Territories (OCT) of the EU because of its political union with Denmark. As a result, Greenland has some integration with the EU's internal market via association agreements. It is also within the EU's common external tariff but they may charge customs in a non-discriminatory manner. Greenlandic citizens have EU citizenship.[4] OCT nationals can be granted the right to vote for and participate in the election of the European Parliament, subject to the conditions defined by the related member states in compliance with Community law.[5]

Up to 2006, all EU funds to Greenland (then €42.8 million per year) went via the EU–Greenland fishing agreement. Between 2007 and 2013, the EU provided €25 million per year outside of fishing.[6] It has been given aid since it pulled out of the EU (see below) in 1985 to roughly the same amount it was previously receiving in EU structural funds (which it lost the right to receive due to its secession). This amounted to about 7% of Greenland's budget. The amount paid via the fishing agreement was in return for EU vessels fishing in Greenland's waters and to help restructure Greenland's fishing fleet. However, this deal was struck down by the European Court of Auditors, who felt the amount the EU was paying was too high for the quantity of fish caught.[7].....
However I think that the May govt will not act against the wishes of the DUP.
 
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PM of the Irish Republican state expresses Irish nationalist position. Is anyone shocked?
 

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PM of the Irish Republican state expresses Irish nationalist position. Is anyone shocked?
That in itself would be something of a departure for senior Gina Fail figures. And likely to cause palpitations in the more rural corners of Meath.
 

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That in itself would be something of a departure for senior Gina Fail figures. And likely to cause palpitations in the more rural corners of Meath.
It may do, but unionists, who the question in the op asked, would hardly be shocked.
 

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PM of the Irish Republican state expresses Irish nationalist position. Is anyone shocked?
He isn't an Irish Nationalist. What is motivating him is strictly business. Remember he wore a Poppy badge in the Dail deliberately honouring the soldiers who put down the 1916 insurrection just recently which caused a lot of annoyance. He doesn't want Northern Ireland dissolved without significant support for doing so from the PUL tribe. This is all about money.
 

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He isn't an Irish Nationalist. What is motivating him is strictly business. Remember he wore a Poppy badge in the Dail deliberately honouring the soldiers who put down the 1916 insurrection just recently which caused a lot of annoyance. He doesn't want Northern Ireland dissolved without significant support for doing so from the PUL tribe. This is all about money.
And unionists care, how?
 

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And unionists care, how?

Whether they care or not is up to them. The thing is though that a hard border could well hurt Northern Ireland economically and also for that and other reasons as well increase the likelihood significantly of a united Ireland happening sooner than later. So maybe he isn't taking an Irish Nationalist line after all.
 

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And unionists care, how?

Whether they care or not is up to them. The thing is though that a hard border could well hurt Northern Ireland economically and also for that and other reasons as well increase the likelihood significantly of a united Ireland happening sooner than later. So maybe he isn't being an Irish Nationalist as you put it on this at all.
 

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Whether they care or not is up to them. The thing is though that a hard border could well hurt Northern Ireland economically and also for that and other reasons as well increase the likelihood significantly of a united Ireland happening sooner than later. So maybe he isn't being an Irish Nationalist as you put it on this at all.
you are getting much much too complex for the average unionist brain to take in without severe overload and burn out potential , please desist
 

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Whether they care or not is up to them. The thing is though that a hard border could well hurt Northern Ireland economically and also for that and other reasons as well increase the likelihood significantly of a united Ireland happening sooner than later. So maybe he isn't taking an Irish Nationalist line after all.
A border with GB would hurt Northern Ireland more economically.
 


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