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Let's talk about excommunication....baby


tipp revolution

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The Cardinal has thrown down the gauntlet to the Irish Politicians

Here is a cut and paste wiki list of people excommunicated by Rome in the 21st century so far

Members of multiple organizations in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Lincoln, Nebraska were excommunicated by Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz in March 1996 for promoting positions he deemed "totally incompatible with the Catholic faith".[23] The organizations include Call to Action, Catholics for a Free Choice, Planned Parenthood, the Hemlock Society, the Freemasons, and the Society of St. Pius X. The Vatican later confirmed the excommunication of Call to Action members in November 2006.[23]
Emmanual Milingo, former archbishop of Lusaka, for consecrating four bishops without the papal mandate. Also excommunicated were those receiving consecration.[24]
The Community of the Lady of All Nations for heretical teachings and beliefs after a six-year investigation. The declaration was announced by the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops on September 12, 2007.[25]
Fr. Dale Fushek (also laicized by Pope Benedict XVI 02/2010) and Fr. Mark Dippre. Former Priests were issued a Decree of Excommunication by Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted for operating "an opposing ecclesial community" in direct disobedience to orders to refrain from public ministry.[26]
Fr. Marek Bozek (since laicized by Pope Benedict XVI), and the lay parish board members of St. Stanislaus Kostka Church in St. Louis, Missouri in December 2005 were declared guilty of the ecclesiastical crime of schism by then-Archbishop Raymond Leo Burke.[27] Their excommunication was ratified by the Vatican in May 2008. Four of the parish board members have since reconciled with the Church.
The Archbishop of Olinda and Recife in Brazil, Jose Cardoso Sobrinho, announced the automatic excommunication of the mother and doctors of a nine-year-old girl who had an abortion after being raped and impregnated by her stepfather.[28][29]
Sr. Margaret McBride, a nun, for allowing an abortion.[30] McBride later reconciled with the church and is no longer living in a state of excommunication.
All the Catholics and legislators who promoted the abortion law in Uruguay.[31][32][33]
Fr. Roy Bourgeois (also laicized and dismissed from the Maryknoll Fathers) for participating in the ordination of a woman. [34]
Fr. Robert Marrone, by Bishop Richard Gerard Lennon of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Cleveland in Cleveland, Ohio for violating the terms of his leave of absence. Marrone set up a worshipping community (the Community of St. Peter's) in a vacant warehouse and outside of a Catholic building or church after St. Peter's Parish in Cleveland was closed (it has since been reopened), in defiance of the bishop .[35]
Fr. Roberto Francisco Daniel, known by local community as "Father Beto", by Bishop Caetano Ferrari, from Bauru, Brazil. Daniel was excommunicated for disobedience and for "heresy" because he refused to apologize for or retract his statement in support of gay people

Yet millions starve to death while the wealth of the Vatican is immeasurable?
 


Ribeye

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Hmmm,

FG v The RCC?

Hmmmm,

I need to have a think about this one,
 

ger12

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There may be a couple of hundred/thousand attending Knock this weekend, but I believe the vast majority of Irish people couldn't give f**k what the catholic church think. Even the majority of FG voters.
 

rgaok

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The Cardinal has thrown down the gauntlet to the Irish Politicians

Here is a cut and paste wiki list of people excommunicated by Rome in the 21st century so far

Members of multiple organizations in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Lincoln, Nebraska were excommunicated by Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz in March 1996 for promoting positions he deemed "totally incompatible with the Catholic faith".[23] The organizations include Call to Action, Catholics for a Free Choice, Planned Parenthood, the Hemlock Society, the Freemasons, and the Society of St. Pius X. The Vatican later confirmed the excommunication of Call to Action members in November 2006.[23]
Emmanual Milingo, former archbishop of Lusaka, for consecrating four bishops without the papal mandate. Also excommunicated were those receiving consecration.[24]
The Community of the Lady of All Nations for heretical teachings and beliefs after a six-year investigation. The declaration was announced by the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops on September 12, 2007.[25]
Fr. Dale Fushek (also laicized by Pope Benedict XVI 02/2010) and Fr. Mark Dippre. Former Priests were issued a Decree of Excommunication by Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted for operating "an opposing ecclesial community" in direct disobedience to orders to refrain from public ministry.[26]
Fr. Marek Bozek (since laicized by Pope Benedict XVI), and the lay parish board members of St. Stanislaus Kostka Church in St. Louis, Missouri in December 2005 were declared guilty of the ecclesiastical crime of schism by then-Archbishop Raymond Leo Burke.[27] Their excommunication was ratified by the Vatican in May 2008. Four of the parish board members have since reconciled with the Church.
The Archbishop of Olinda and Recife in Brazil, Jose Cardoso Sobrinho, announced the automatic excommunication of the mother and doctors of a nine-year-old girl who had an abortion after being raped and impregnated by her stepfather.[28][29]
Sr. Margaret McBride, a nun, for allowing an abortion.[30] McBride later reconciled with the church and is no longer living in a state of excommunication.
All the Catholics and legislators who promoted the abortion law in Uruguay.[31][32][33]
Fr. Roy Bourgeois (also laicized and dismissed from the Maryknoll Fathers) for participating in the ordination of a woman. [34]
Fr. Robert Marrone, by Bishop Richard Gerard Lennon of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Cleveland in Cleveland, Ohio for violating the terms of his leave of absence. Marrone set up a worshipping community (the Community of St. Peter's) in a vacant warehouse and outside of a Catholic building or church after St. Peter's Parish in Cleveland was closed (it has since been reopened), in defiance of the bishop .[35]
Fr. Roberto Francisco Daniel, known by local community as "Father Beto", by Bishop Caetano Ferrari, from Bauru, Brazil. Daniel was excommunicated for disobedience and for "heresy" because he refused to apologize for or retract his statement in support of gay people

Yet millions starve to death while the wealth of the Vatican is immeasurable?
the RCC absolutely obsessed with womens' bodies....
 

pippakin

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I need to make it very clear that if that miserable excuse for a man Brady enforces his excommunication whatsit I will not vote for anyone who has not been excommunicated
 
J

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Once a pathetic snivelling bully, always a pathetic snivelling bully.
Brady is a disgusting excuse for a human being, and doesn't deserve the attention he gets.
 

mr. jings

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Once a pathetic snivelling bully, always a pathetic snivelling bully.
Brady is a disgusting excuse for a human being, and doesn't deserve the attention he gets.
+1. He's the sort of guy who gives sanctimonious, arrogant, jobsworth child-endangerers a bad name.
 

Lúidín

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The list of those who weren't expelled from that organisation is even more interesting. It includes priests who used their 'ministry' to rape and abuse children and the bishops who participated in such crimes and covered up for the criminals.

Not relevant but funny is Groucho Marx's remark: 'I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member'.
 
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Once a pathetic snivelling bully, always a pathetic snivelling bully.
Brady is a disgusting excuse for a human being, and doesn't deserve the attention he gets.
Agreed with the proviso that he deserves lots of attention. Negative attention, but attention nonetheless.
 

IbrahaimMohamad

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The Cardinal has thrown down the gauntlet to the Irish Politicians

Here is a cut and paste wiki list of people excommunicated by Rome in the 21st century so far

Members of multiple organizations in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Lincoln, Nebraska were excommunicated by Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz in March 1996 for promoting positions he deemed "totally incompatible with the Catholic faith".[23] The organizations include Call to Action, Catholics for a Free Choice, Planned Parenthood, the Hemlock Society, the Freemasons, and the Society of St. Pius X. The Vatican later confirmed the excommunication of Call to Action members in November 2006.[23]
Emmanual Milingo, former archbishop of Lusaka, for consecrating four bishops without the papal mandate. Also excommunicated were those receiving consecration.[24]
The Community of the Lady of All Nations for heretical teachings and beliefs after a six-year investigation. The declaration was announced by the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops on September 12, 2007.[25]
Fr. Dale Fushek (also laicized by Pope Benedict XVI 02/2010) and Fr. Mark Dippre. Former Priests were issued a Decree of Excommunication by Bishop Thomas J. Olmsted for operating "an opposing ecclesial community" in direct disobedience to orders to refrain from public ministry.[26]
Fr. Marek Bozek (since laicized by Pope Benedict XVI), and the lay parish board members of St. Stanislaus Kostka Church in St. Louis, Missouri in December 2005 were declared guilty of the ecclesiastical crime of schism by then-Archbishop Raymond Leo Burke.[27] Their excommunication was ratified by the Vatican in May 2008. Four of the parish board members have since reconciled with the Church.
The Archbishop of Olinda and Recife in Brazil, Jose Cardoso Sobrinho, announced the automatic excommunication of the mother and doctors of a nine-year-old girl who had an abortion after being raped and impregnated by her stepfather.[28][29]
Sr. Margaret McBride, a nun, for allowing an abortion.[30] McBride later reconciled with the church and is no longer living in a state of excommunication.
All the Catholics and legislators who promoted the abortion law in Uruguay.[31][32][33]
Fr. Roy Bourgeois (also laicized and dismissed from the Maryknoll Fathers) for participating in the ordination of a woman. [34]
Fr. Robert Marrone, by Bishop Richard Gerard Lennon of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Cleveland in Cleveland, Ohio for violating the terms of his leave of absence. Marrone set up a worshipping community (the Community of St. Peter's) in a vacant warehouse and outside of a Catholic building or church after St. Peter's Parish in Cleveland was closed (it has since been reopened), in defiance of the bishop .[35]
Fr. Roberto Francisco Daniel, known by local community as "Father Beto", by Bishop Caetano Ferrari, from Bauru, Brazil. Daniel was excommunicated for disobedience and for "heresy" because he refused to apologize for or retract his statement in support of gay people

Yet millions starve to death while the wealth of the Vatican is immeasurable?
Me thinks that the Bishop figures that if the law is changed he might not be informed of cases where abortions are carried out so that he can excommunicate those that carry them out and those on whom they are carried out.

He figures it is best to have the State maintain a legal prohibition even though you could apply to the Courts for an Abortion in certain circumstances.

Has he thought about excommunicating all those in Ireland who voted to permit travel for abortion?

Surely if he is considering excommunicating politicians for voting to permit abortion in Ireland under very limited circumstances he should also excommunicate all those who voted to permit travel for abortion in very wide circumstances overseas ?
 
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Hopefuly Kenny will tell them to shove their croziers up their ar$es.
I sort of feel for him in a way. He's obviously devout, bet he has put himself in bad odour with them on more than one occasion. I have some small admiration for him in that respect.
 

johnny365

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Did Brady threaten Child Rapists and those who concealed them with excommunication?
 

FakeViking

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I sort of feel for him in a way. He's obviously devout, bet he has put himself in bad odour with them on more than one occasion. I have some small admiration for him in that respect.
Compared to the way Ahern and his ilk prostrated themselves in front of their "lordships", this makes a nice change all right. Now if he could rescind the appalling deal Michael Woods did with the religious congregations.
 

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