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Limerick regeneration


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Michael Heney Prime Time now


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adamirer

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Limerick...

Limerick looks even worse on Prime Time tonight than i remembered. Jesus, I grew up in Ballyfermot in the 80's but its nothing compared to the state of parts of that city.

Why in gods name do Limerick folk vote O'Dea in with such a majority each time, he should be strung up for abject failure in looking after the city.
 

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thanks.

Shocking stuff. Way worse than what I've ever seen in Dublin and 2 men with huge experience of the capital say similar
 

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What do you do with a hardcore of thugs, criminals and dysfunctional families? Spending billions knocking what were once perfectly good houses and rebuilding them as perfectly good houses makes no sense. We have to come up with a plan to deal with the feral families in some of our social housing estates (I wish I knew what that answer was).
 

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Why in gods name do Limerick folk vote O'Dea in with such a majority each time, he should be strung up for abject failure in looking after the city.
Because the electorate know that the talentless gob********************es who are the rest of their choices in Limerick (bar Noonan) have no chance of getting near power. When Dessie O'Malley was running he used to pull in a running mate on two quotas also. It's O'Dea or irrelevance, unfortunately.
 

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What do you do with a hardcore of thugs, criminals and dysfunctional families? Spending billions knocking what were once perfectly good houses and rebuilding them as perfectly good houses makes no sense. We have to come up with a plan to deal with the feral families in some of our social housing estates (I wish I knew what that answer was).
It's impossible but social mix is the key. We tried it with Part V of the 2000 Planning Act but the Builders of Destiny p1ssed all over it.

If you look at parts of Dublin with small COuncil estates cheek by jowl with small private housing estates they work - Dundrum, Dun Laoaghaire, Raheny- older organic suburbs that were unplanned. When you built massive social housing schemes like Darndale and Ballymun and then just drop in all of society's problems, you create tinderboxes as Limerick's estates were called tonight.

That's why the key element of Ballymun;s regeneration was to bring in private development alongside higher density less sprawling public housing with services. That was the intention. haven't been there in about a year but it doesn't seem to be being delivered
 

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Interesting to hear Finneran say that private funding was going to make up €1.3 billion of the regeneration program. What a load of boll............................
 

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Cabinet and City Council meetings should be held in the Limerick regeneration areas at least once every quarter until they have been salvaged.

That should get things moving.

Thanks to stringjack for merging the two threads but shunting this from Health and Social Affairs to the Munster forum is inappropriate imho. If the death of a young girl in HSE care in Dublin is suitable for the HSA forum then the death of whole swathes of a city and the abandonment of large numbers of its citizens to despair is just as much a national affair.
 

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This Government doesn`t care about the Mid West.

This regeneration like the school building program will be put off indefinitely. The spin will be the contracts are going out to tender very soon..................

Shannon Airport - nearly gone
Tourism in the Mid West - down 30%
Brosnan committee - haven`t heard a dickie bird yet
Dell - reacted too late
 

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Because the electorate know that the talentless gob********************es who are the rest of their choices in Limerick (bar Noonan) have no chance of getting near power. When Dessie O'Malley was running he used to pull in a running mate on two quotas also. It's O'Dea or irrelevance, unfortunately.
O' Dea, Noonan, the O'Malleys etc- what a dysfunctional county.
 

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a bloody infraction because stringjack - who can't be pm'd - feels the thread didnt belong in current affairs (despite being a current affairs issue!) and belonged in 'Munster'! This is not a 'Munster' issue.

Anyway, you'd have to wonder if the problems in Limerick are too endemic to be fixed. There are times where the best way of treating a diseased area is to cut it out and not try and repair it. Clearly you can't 'kill' a city, but if they can't afford to re-develop the 4 critical areas, maybe they should look at real relocation and not re-development.
 

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really? Of course this is current affairs. It was on national tv and is a national issue!!! Jaysus.
 

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This was a year and a half ago.

The Interim Chief Executive of the Regeneration Agencies, Brendan Kenny, acknowledges that it is the worst economic climate to launch a Master Plan of this scale.

"The reality is, yes, we are going to Government looking for funding at probably the worst economic climate over the last 30 maybe 50 years, which is ironic for the people living there, that they lived through an unprecedented economic boom over the last 15 years and really didn't benefit from it.

"However, we have a mandate from Government to do this job. It's a job that has to be done, it needs to be done. You will never get investment unless you have a plan and now there is a plan not just for Moyross, St Mary's Park, Southill and Ballinacurra Weston but it has now been amalgamated into a plan for the regeneration of Limerick," Mr Kenny told the Limerick Chronicle.
Limerick Regeneration Masterplan revealed - Limerick Leader
 

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This Government doesn`t care about the Mid West.

This regeneration like the school building program will be put off indefinitely. The spin will be the contracts are going out to tender very soon..................

Shannon Airport - nearly gone
Tourism in the Mid West - down 30%
Brosnan committee - haven`t heard a dickie bird yet
Dell - reacted too late
Agreed. It got little or no investment during the "boom". Galway was promoted as the 3rd city because Limericks boundary issue made a very easy case for it having a smaller population and the Mid West was left to rot. There is still over 20k more people in Limerick than there is in Galway but it is still being pushed as the 3rd city. The majority of Limericks "boom" time centred around DELL and little else, and we all know how that turned out.
Can't see the situation changing any time soon.

Urban area population as per CSO 2006 census

http://www.cso.ie/census/census2006results/volume_2/census_2006_vol_2_tables_14_15.pdf
 

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It's impossible but social mix is the key.


No it isn't, although I do take your point about small local authority developments. The real key is that the woman of the house should have ideas above her station. That tends to do it.
 

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huh?
 

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