Looking for a Saffron Kilt

Heligoland

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I've been invited to a wedding in Scotland where kilts will be worn.

I thought I might express my Irish heritage by wearing a Saffron kilt.

Does anyone know where I might rent such a thing?
 


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There is a nice tartan called the "Pride of Ireland" available in most of the shops. Worn it a few times. There is a McCalls in most places a=or at least in the town your flying through.

If there all wearing kilts its best to go kilted otherwise you'll be the butt of the jokes all night!

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There is a nice tartan called the "Pride of Ireland" available in most of the shops.
Thanks for the links.


I'm a bit dubious about wearing Tartan, since it's not really an Irish thing. I had hoped I could find a kilt in the traditional Saffron colour, but it's harder than I expected.
 

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I've been invited to a wedding in Scotland where kilts will be worn.

I thought I might express my Irish heritage by wearing a Saffron kilt.

Does anyone know where I might rent such a thing?
Don't bother. A saffron kilt is about as Irish as an Irish burka, less so.
 

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I'm afraid there's nothing traditional about the saffron kilt - it was invented about 100 years ago in imitation of the Scottish kilt.
Funnily enough, there's nothing very traditional about modern, garish Scottish tartans, worn exclusively by bearers of particular surnames, either - that grew up during the "tartan craze" in the 19th century.

It's a pity an Irish national costume - based on clothing which Irish people actually wore - has so far not been developed.
Items of clothing consistently worn by the Irish over the centuries include:
The "Triús" (trews) - a sort of tight fitting trousers.
The "Léine" - a long shirt-like garment usually made from linen and dyed saffron (the lower part of which, often pleated, seems to be the origin of the idea of a saffron kilt).
The "Ionar" - a sort of skirted jacket or tunic, often highly decorated. and
The "Brat" or "Fallaing" - a cloak or cape (various shapes and sizes were worn).

There's a hell of a lot of crap out there being marketed as "traditional" Irish clothing, mostly to gullible Americans. At least it might put some of them out of business:D.
 

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I'm afraid there's nothing traditional about the saffron kilt - it was invented about 100 years ago in imitation of the Scottish kilt.
Funnily enough, there's nothing very traditional about modern, garish Scottish tartans, worn exclusively by bearers of particular surnames, either - that grew up during the "tartan craze" in the 19th century.

It's a pity an Irish national costume - based on clothing which Irish people actually wore - has so far not been developed.
Items of clothing consistently worn by the Irish over the centuries include:
The "Triús" (trews) - a sort of tight fitting trousers.
The "Léine" - a long shirt-like garment usually made from linen and dyed saffron (the lower part of which, often pleated, seems to be the origin of the idea of a saffron kilt).
The "Ionar" - a sort of skirted jacket or tunic, often highly decorated. and
The "Brat" or "Fallaing" - a cloak or cape (various shapes and sizes were worn).

There's a hell of a lot of crap out there being marketed as "traditional" Irish clothing, mostly to gullible Americans. At least it might put some of them out of business:D.
+1

Some pictures in "The Black Diaries " including a lad in an Asterix the Gaul style goose-wing hat.
Anything English was ipso facto not for the Irish, as it might appear to weaken the claim to seperate nationhood, but any valued cultural possessions of the English were shown to have their Gaelic equivalents.

Thus was born what Seán de Fréine has called an ingenious device of national parallellism:41

English language - Irish language
English law - Brehon law
Parliament - Dáil
Prime Minister - Taoiseach
Soccer - Gaelic football
Hockey - Hurling
Trousers - Kilt

It mattered little whether those devices had a secure basis in Irish history, for if they had not previously existed they could be invented, Gaelic football being a classic case of instant archaeology but definitely not a game known to Cuchulain.

41: Seán de Fréine, The Great Silence, Dublin 1965, 108.
Inventing Ireland The Literature Of The Modern Nation by Declan Kiberd (1995) p 151.
 

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It mattered little whether those devices had a secure basis in Irish history, for if they had not previously existed they could be invented, Gaelic football being a classic case of instant archaeology but definitely not a game known to Cuchulain.
It's simply the difference between playing a sport and inventing a strict code of rules for a sporting organisation (GAA late 19thC). The English claim to have invented football - but the game has been played in many countries of the world since antiquity, the English laid down the rules which resemble those known today.
 

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Contact any pipe band playing in Ireland, and suss out their kilt sources. Google is your friend.
 

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All you brilliant people! - the oldest piece of tartan found was found in an Irish bog! Thousands of years old.
 

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Tartan allegedly is an Irish invention, attributed to the time of the pagan king Tiernamas. The tartan patterns of the Scottish, used for identification, is largely a Victorian invention. As far as I know, classical Irish were more likely to be clothed in tunic and great cloak rather then kilt.
 


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