No the Lough is entirely in County Londonderry, this is the way it has always been even when Londonderry was in the same country as Roi, so really it belongs to Northern Ireland and Donegal can't really make a claim.This lough has been used by fishermen for generations but since independence in 1922, has found itself claimed by two states. Both Ireland and the UK claim the lough and both country's Navys have patrolled it in recent times. Is it about time with the visit of QEII in the summer that this old dispute is put to bed?
As recently as 2005, when asked to list those areas of EU member states where border definition is in dispute, a British Government minister responding for the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs stated:
Lough Foyle " is politically disputed between Ireland and the UK".
One example of an article: Foyle 'loughed' in dispute - Local - Londonderry Sentinel
Finally an example of the Dáil claiming ownership for Ireland: Dil ireann - Volume 328 - 31 March, 1981 - Written Answers. - Lough Foyle Vessel Explosion.
What do you all think? Worth fighting for? or just another costly exercise in trying to claim ownership?
Why the hell would we do that? Seriously wants to give away land get real.Presumably it will be referred to a North-South body for agreement, with the British government indicating that it will accept whatever agreement is reached. That is the normal approach to solving disputes post the Belfast Agreement.
It could be jointly administered by the Northern Executive and the Irish Government.
On the British side, the procedure would be for the First Minister and Deputy First Minister to formally advise the Queen. As it is a territorial dispute, and therefore not within the powers of the Northern Executive, she would seek advice from the British Government, who would formally agree with the Executive stance.
Whatever agreement is reached with both states would be formally registered as a treaty between both states in the United Nations.
When I was a teenager I was sitting on Grainan of Aileach drinking some beer with friends and listening to music. We were waiting for the sun to come up, when a British Army patrol came walking into the fort asking us for directions. They had just come from Inch Level and were trying to find Nixons Corner. They had no idea where they were, but did get us to take a couple of group photo's of them with there camera in Grainan as the sun came up. It was funny as hell.I like the bit in Wiki that goes :
"Unlike other borders in the EU, the Irish border is not officially marked by either government."
It reminded me of the occasion back in the late 1980s when I was retracing a trek that I used to make most Sundays as a kid out from Creggan in Derry and over Sherrif's Mountain down to a wee shop known as The Black Hut just inside County Donegal where I would buy my grandfather's favourite tobacco, Walnut Plug (he being from Clonakilty in Cork and having eventually settled in Derry).
I encountered a British Army foot-patrol on a back road about 400 yards inside Donegal arguing over their maps. I politely put them right - seeing as there were no road signs or other distinguishing features to enlighten them - and they turned about and trudged back uphill to a point where I distinctly heard one squaddie say as they examined the roadway "I'm telling you, the road definitely changes here. That side's tarmac, the other's concrete."
If I can remember correctly, the border ran along the shipping channel from Muff to out past Magilligan-Greencastle. Just over 2 thirds of Lough Foyle is in the North and the rest the South.No the Lough is entirely in County Londonderry, this is the way it has always been even when Londonderry was in the same country as Roi, so really it belongs to Northern Ireland and Donegal can't really make a claim.
Yet the Brits don't seem to have a problem with dumping radioactive waste from Sellafield/Windscale into the Irish Sea.
But with Irish Reunification is only five or ten years away what' the point in starting such a dispute..With a No deal Brexit looking increasingly likely, Ireland should send a naval ship (if it can get a crew together..) to
Lough Foyle immediately for a sovereignty patrol.