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McSlaggart

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I don’t want to live in a sham democracy where the threat of a return to violence means we all have to put up and shut up. It really is time for all who genuinely love Northern Ireland to speak out and say enough is enough.
The executive is dysfunctional and prolonging its life will serve no one.

Direct rule is needed with a beefed up ministerial team giving priority to getting the economy boosted and our health and education services supported. That cannot mean an increased role for an Irish government that does not want Sinn Fein anywhere near power in Dublin.
Until we reshape the institutions and radically reform how we run our government local politicians will not be trusted to govern over us.
 


michael-mcivor

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Kate said she was opposed to SInn Fein demanding that the schools close early at the start of Covid 19 whilst the Unionists and Boris dithered-
no need to read after that sentence-
 

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I don’t want to live in a sham democracy where the threat of a return to violence means we all have to put up and shut up. It really is time for all who genuinely love Northern Ireland to speak out and say enough is enough.
The executive is dysfunctional and prolonging its life will serve no one.

Direct rule is needed with a beefed up ministerial team giving priority to getting the economy boosted and our health and education services supported. That cannot mean an increased role for an Irish government that does not want Sinn Fein anywhere near power in Dublin.
Until we reshape the institutions and radically reform how we run our government local politicians will not be trusted to govern over us.
I suspect that even Unionists would find that piece embarrassing. That woman is dull as dishwater.
 

McSlaggart

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I suspect that even Unionists would find that piece embarrassing. That woman is dull as dishwater.

I would agree but equally a lot of unionists would agree with her point of view. The sad fact is that the mood in unionism is not "good". Whatever northern Ireland was to be it never was supposed to have SF in power. The sad fact is a lot of the young go over to the mainland never to return.1 Uionists have go themselves in a self for-filling proficiency. 2



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"Over a third of students from Northern Ireland began their degree at a university elsewhere in the UK last year.

That is according to figures published by the Department for the Economy (DfE).

Of 14,035 students who started higher education in 2016-17, 65.5% stayed in Northern Ireland to study.

The most popular destinations for those who left to study were Scotland and the north-west of England.

John Moores University in Liverpool was the most popular for those studying elsewhere in the UK, with 1,775 Northern Irish students in 2016-17.

Other universities popular among Northern Ireland students were in Dundee, Glasgow, Edinburgh and the University of Northumbria."

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"We, the undersigned, are saddened and dismayed to see the continual alienation of Protestant and Unionist students at Queen’s University Belfast and all other Universities in Northern Ireland. "

 

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She says she cares for democracy in NI but she ignored its vote on Brexit and wants direct rule with no role for Dublin? Time to go back to England, Katie.
 

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I don’t want to live in a sham democracy where the threat of a return to violence means we all have to put up and shut up. It really is time for all who genuinely love Northern Ireland to speak out and say enough is enough.
The executive is dysfunctional and prolonging its life will serve no one.

Direct rule is needed with a beefed up ministerial team giving priority to getting the economy boosted and our health and education services supported. That cannot mean an increased role for an Irish government that does not want Sinn Fein anywhere near power in Dublin.
Until we reshape the institutions and radically reform how we run our government local politicians will not be trusted to govern over us.
30 years in politics and she still knows nothing.

It is apparent that she is suffering from the delusion that the Belfast Agreement does not or never existed.

The same delusion is apparent when she fawns over the Brexit disaster which she helped to midwife .

Whether Kate Hoey likes it or not, the effect of the Belfast Agreement is that the government of the Republic will have a say in what happens in Northern Ireland. And the effect of Brexit is that the Government of the Republic will have a say on what happens to Britain, due to the Belfast Agreement.

That is really is boiling her piss.
 

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Those of us who have watched the progress of Catharine Letitia from her International Marxist Group days at Stranmillis, then NILP, then ever onwards and rightwards, serially sat on by stronger minds than hers, have never been convinced she is a Great Political Thinker.

There are many ishoos here; but, whatever the question, revanchist Direct Rule is never an adequate answer.
 

McSlaggart

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Those of us who have watched the progress of Catharine Letitia from her International Marxist Group days at Stranmillis, then NILP, then ever onwards and rightwards, serially sat on by stronger minds than hers, have never been convinced she is a Great Political Thinker.

There are many ishoos here; but, whatever the question, revanchist Direct Rule is never an adequate answer.
Northern Ireland has gone to purgatory. The Irish sea bridge being one of the leading tormentors favorite temptation. Be gentle on Catharine as being different may be hard but not as hard as almost fitting in.
 

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Direct rule is needed with a beefed up ministerial team giving priority to getting the economy boosted and our health and education services supported. That cannot mean an increased role for an Irish government that does not want Sinn Fein anywhere near power in Dublin.
Kate Hoey is an Ulster Prod and I am very set in my views about Ulster Prods. BUT I agree with her view that the present arrangements have to end. I never approved of them. Eoghan Harris of Cork was right when, in his column in the Sunday Times, he described the All-Ireland Institutions of the Good Friday Agreement as "a cosmetic arrangement to disguise a sell-out." And a sell-out it certainly was. It is a sad reflection on the quality of Catholic political leadership when we need one of our most outspoken enemies, a Cork Stickie to tell us that it was a sell-out. Belfast rule means Prod rule and Prod rule means Prod tyranny. If reform requires cross-community approval, there will be no reform. The status quo will prevail and the status quo serves the interests of the privileged tribe. Since the Good Friday Agreement there has been no progress towards equality for Catholics. Nor will there be until the GFA is ditched.

Kate Hoey argues for the return of Direct Rule. That would be an improvement. In late 1989, under Direct Rule, we achieved effective Employment Equality legislation which, in about a dozen years, equalised the unemployment rates between Catholics and Prods. In late 1992 Catholic schools were granted 100% State funding - 61 years after Prod schools had been granted that privilege.

BUT Direct Rule had weaknesses. When the last internees were released, the Secretary of State, Merlin Rees said it was up to Catholics to ensure internment was not reintroduced. Why Catholics? In 1976 a Catholic parade was banned from the commercial centre of Portadown. A few weeks later, a Prod parade was allowed along that same route. Blatant Prod privilege. Not content with that, the Prods were allowed to strut along the mainly Catholic Garvaghy Road. Even more blatant Prod privilege. The UDA was not banned until more than 20 years after it claimed responsibility for sectarian murders. The UVF was legal when it claimed responsibility for the attack on the Miami Showband. It remained legal for another few months until it claimed responsibility for further murders. When the UK government came under pressure to outlaw job discrimination in the private sector, its first reaction was to engage the services of the former leader of the Alliance Party, John Cushnahan to go to the USA to campaign against the McBride Principles. So Direct Rule, while preferable to the current farce, also failed to totally dismantle Prod Privilege or curb Prod aggression.

I think we need a devolved government within the UK for the mainly Catholic areas of Northern Ireland. An Ulster Catholic Canton for the Ulster Catholic people. If the 20% Prod minority in Ireland have a right to self determination, the 45% Catholic minority in Northern Ireland have a similar right to self determination and an even greater right to self-administration. We would have all the advantages of membership of the UK and would be safe from Prod tyranny and Eire treachery.

Yes, Kate Hoey is on the right track. She merely needs a small improvement.
 

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Sounds like you may have just the thing.
 


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