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Lovers' tiff as SF accuses unionists of living in a time warp.


theloner

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Last week the DUP's Peter Robinson did a little electioneering for the SDLP, claiming they had a the 'ability to unnerve' SF. He went further poking fun at SF and its lack of backbone in the assembly claiming:

'Too often Alex Attwood's position one day is Sinn Fein's the next, time and time again the SDLP takes a stance that Sinn Fein lacks the courage to oppose.'

This one must have hurt as not only was the SDLP stance the opposite of the DUP's in regards to the 'Welfare Reforms', SF has come in for big criticism within nationalist circles for not signing the Petition of Concern to kill the bill it such vehemently claimed to oppose. Indeed, many SF posters on this forum seem to be tongue tied on the matter.

Now it's SF's turn to return the serve, Declan Kearney has accused the DUP of dragging it's heals on its murky past, including the role of Ulster Resistance, its ties to the UDA and Brian Nelson's arms issue. This is a point yet to be properly addressed by the DUP and it wont go away. He went on:

'Their contributions sit in stark juxtaposition to the involvement of DUP politicians in Ulster Resistance, its documented role in importing weapons later sold to the UDA, with the support of several British agents, not just Brian Nelson, and, subsequently used in multiple sectarian and political assassinations during the 1980s and 1990s'.

He added the DUP should start doing 'grown up politics'. Kearney outlined how far NI has come and it was impossible for Robinson to become 'a latter day James Craig or Basil Brooke, because the Orange State has gone'. (Or, perhaps that should be diluted, Declan). Robinson's comments seemed to have hit a nerve within SF circles, and the usually calm and collected public face had a few home truths for unionists as he went to say:

'The Orange Order and loyalist bands cannot walk wherever they want; the 11 Plus isn't coming back; minorities do have rights; and nationalists in the north are no longer second class citizens'.

The event was hosted by West Belfast MP Paul Maskey in the Grand Committee Room at W.M. and was also attended by John Alderdice, Conservative Peer, ex-Eton, Bobsledder Robin Dixon and former Under Secretary of State Angela Smith.
BBC News - Sinn Fein: DUP needs to grow up
 


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ArtyisBack

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There is a phoney war being declared as both sides are worried that the electorate will punish them for the coziness at Stormont. Sf particularly are vulnerable to this accusation, and the running with the hare and hunting with the hounds on the Welfare Bill does not wash.
 

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Just another point - since when was the 11 Plus a nationalist/unionist issue/ I want the 11 Plus and so do the majority of nationalist parents I know. SF trying to frame an argument that they are having difficulty with?
 

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Mere bluster; Peter Robinson is a man Nationalists can do business with. Indeed, he's probably the best leader NI has yet had in its torturous existence.
 

jdaly

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There is a phoney war being declared as both sides are worried that the electorate will punish them for the coziness at Stormont. Sf particularly are vulnerable to this accusation, and the running with the hare and hunting with the hounds on the Welfare Bill does not wash.
Exactly and because they are bowing down to Westminster's dictates at all times as in the welfare 'reform' issue. It suits them to play tough when in reality they are play dough in London's hands. This is simply eye candy for the masses to distract from the issues which are really hurting the public.
 

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Exactly and because they are bowing down to Westminster's dictates at all times as in the welfare 'reform' issue. It suits them to play tough when in reality they are play dough in London's hands. This is simply eye candy for the masses to distract from the issues which are really hurting the public.
It is no coincidence that Gerry has been referendum rattling.
 
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What I found funny was Kearney whining that Unionist Councils won't "Share Power" - hardly surprising when we see how SF handle shared power in the Assembly - step forward and take a bow Conor Murphy!
Oh, I don't know...................
Weren't they the compliant little poodles when it mattered.............................
Welfare "reforms".............................?
A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat! Squire!
Nudge, nudge! Wink, wink! Say no more, say no more.........................
 
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Mere bluster; Peter Robinson is a man Nationalists can do business with. Indeed, he's probably the best leader NI has yet had in its torturous existence.
Cometh the hour, cometh the man, is all......................................
 
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Castle Ray

Kearney was completely ridiculous and his wee rant yesterday was so pathetic given that he went to London to let off his head fart moaning about the DUP not engaging with SF. SF don't engage in London at all but in Belfast they work hand in hand with the DUP. Wtf was Kearney doing in London?? His outburst yesterday is also further demonstration of the nonsense that is talked by that party about "Unionist outreach". He justified a sectarian terror campaign, attacked the DUP and then said "lets talk about reconciliation". It was all completely absurd and if that's the sort of stuff that makes nationalists feel good then it says more about nationalists.

When we have two sectarian parties like the DUP and SF in power then I suppose we have to expect such spats. But is anyone really fooled by these shenanigans?
 

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Oh, I don't know...................
Weren't they the compliant little poodles when it mattered.............................
Welfare "reforms".............................?
A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat! Squire!
Nudge, nudge! Wink, wink! Say no more, say no more.........................
Now now Johnny - being nasty about SF is our job!

Or do you want to start a demarcation dispute? petunia
 

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It's fair to say that this is for the optics, but he does have a point. Just one look at Gregory stopping the assembly over the Irish language ad, refusing to build houses on the basis of need at girdwood, refusing to condemn rioting and breaking parades commission rulings.

SF are miles ahead of the DUP when it comes to this sort of thing.
 

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I've heard Kearney speak before and have fukk all idea how he got his position. There's many who can make Wee Barry sound eloquent but he manages it
 

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I've heard Kearney speak before and have fukk all idea how he got his position. There's many who can make Wee Barry sound eloquent but he manages it

Quite simply that's Shyte. Ffs Esk your anti any thing Sf stance a times is enough to give Willie Frazer a red face.
 
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Quite simply that's Shyte. Ffs Esk your anti any thing Sf stance a times is enough to give Willie Frazer a red face.
Kearney normally sounds the part, even though most sensible people know better, but did you see his appearance on UTV last night? The traditionally polished and apparently reasonable position SF tries to adopt was left looking stupid where the usually intransigent Dodds just laughed a bit and left Kearney to look ridiculous and keep digging in the hole he put himself in. It was absurd to see the DUP (and Dodds of all people!) make a sectarian monkey of SF.
 

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Quite simply that's Shyte. Ffs Esk your anti any thing Sf stance a times is enough to give Willie Frazer a red face.
Declan is a dedicated republican who has worked tirelessly. He's IMHO a good speaker and a good chairman and deserving of the position. He is also correct in his comments on the subject as much as it irks those with petty little sniping comments to make about him.
 

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