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Lowry and Dail register of interests


williewatch

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According to to days Indo Michael Lowery has been forced into updating his entry in the Dail register of Interests.

Seemingly he was put under pressure from "Political scientist and 'Sunday Independent' columnist Elaine Byrne last weekend encouraged her readers to complain about Mr Lowry to the Dail authorities.!"

Lowry declares controversial UK site after spate of complaints - National News - Independent.ie

The article says "THE Oireachtas has been inundated with complaints about land in England owned by Independent TD Michael Lowry, which he failed to declare in the Dail register of interests.

Mr Lowry only added the land to his declaration of interests yesterday after the controversy blew up over his failure to list his part-ownershio of the 21-acre site in Wigan.

More than 80 members of the public have complained in writing to Dail authorities in recent days at the controversial TD's failure to declare his share in the land."

Does the register apply if income is earned by TDs for such things as writing newspaper columns, company directorships etc? Does it matter anyway? Mr Lowery doesn't seem too concerned.
 
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Radix

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Don't let the besstidds grind you down Michael.
 

Disillusioned democrat

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Lowry not a first time offender wrt register of interests, so quite likely there's even more out there.

It's very disheartening to see repeat offenders continue to get off with a half-hearted finger wagging and continue as if nothing happened. Rules are rules and there for a reason.
 

williewatch

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Lowry not a first time offender wrt register of interests, so quite likely there's even more out there.

It's very disheartening to see repeat offenders continue to get off with a half-hearted finger wagging and continue as if nothing happened. Rules are rules and there for a reason.
You don't think this will embarrass any other TDs into doing the decent thing so?
 

FrankSpeaks

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What are the sanctions for breaking the rules?

Whatever they are they should be applied!
 

Disillusioned democrat

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You don't think this will embarrass any other TDs into doing the decent thing so?
Our pols don't do embarrassment...but if there was a sanction for breaking the rules of the house...say a month's salary and/or allowances I would imagine he's be a bit more upset and it'd provide an example to the others.

A finger wagging and tut-tut is about as useless as an umbrella in a hurricane.
 
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Are there any sanctions for lying on your declaration of interests?
 

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Our pols don't do embarrassment...but if there was a sanction for breaking the rules of the house...say a month's salary and/or allowances I would imagine he's be a bit more upset and it'd provide an example to the others.

A finger wagging and tut-tut is about as useless as an umbrella in a hurricane.
The penalty should be more punitive..

Any TD who doesn't declare owership or part ownership over goods or property over the 13k limit should be barred from standing for re-election for a period of 10 years.......

How someone can 'forget' to declare land that from the newspaper reports is worth between 100-300k is scandalous.... and shows the how little, amounts of money and property/goods in these brackets register on our TD's radars.....

Most ordinary people would remember if thay had assets worth 13k+ lying around the place....especially in these recessionary times
 

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Franzoni

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Probably a promotion too...
The laws really are not written for our benefit.
Also i reckon one of the main reasons Noonan is so lax in his efforts to tackle bankers pensions....changing the law or articles of the constitution to tackle this could rebound and be used against politicians and the outragous sums of money they get.....
 
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Also i reckon one of the main reasons Noonan is so lax in his efforts to tackle bankers pensions....changing the law or articles of the constitution to tackle this could rebound and be used against politicians and the outragous sums of money they get.....
I feel sorry for the low end ps workers who, if what I have heard is true, get very little above and beyond the state pension for their pension payments. The money is apparently needed to pay for the top end pensions for people who pay nowhere near enought.

No wonder they are not allowed choose a different pension scheme.
 

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What's the point of having a register at all if they can just lash it in whenever they feel like it or whenever they get caught out. It was the same with Reilly. He had put inaccurate information into the register regarding his nursing home and when he was caught out, by himself I might add, he just changed it and said it was an "unintended error"..... no questions asked.

The clerk of the Dáil has a case to answer here. He received many complaints but has done nothing apart from contacting Lowry to let him know there were complaints.... why has Lowry registered it if he feels the valuations were wildly inaccurate?
 

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Lowry epitomises two of the real problems with Irish politics:

1 - there's no accountability. There's NO good or acceptable reason Lowry would fail to register this land as an "interest" - he's trying to deceive and/or someone, be it the electorate, the tax man or a partner, so on that basis and the basis that it's a requirement of his "employment" as a TD it is unacceptable that there is no sanction for this - "little" people aren't allowed these "unintended errors" so it's not acceptable that our leaders are.

2 - "local" national politics - people like Lowry are elected for the strokes he pulls locally, not his achievements nationally. At a national level gombeens like Lowry wouldn't have a chance of being elected - all he's done for the country was (granted, allegedly) sell off the 2nd mobile license for less than it was worth, but at a local level all he has to do is pull a few strokes - typically just overcoming the red tape associated with accessing allowances and services constituents are entitled to anyway - to get elected.

As long as there are Lowrys there will be gombeen politics in Ireland
 

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Lowry epitomises two of the real problems with Irish politics:

1 - there's no accountability. There's NO good or acceptable reason Lowry would fail to register this land as an "interest" - he's trying to deceive and/or someone, be it the electorate, the tax man or a partner, so on that basis and the basis that it's a requirement of his "employment" as a TD it is unacceptable that there is no sanction for this - "little" people aren't allowed these "unintended errors" so it's not acceptable that our leaders are.

2 - "local" national politics - people like Lowry are elected for the strokes he pulls locally, not his achievements nationally. At a national level gombeens like Lowry wouldn't have a chance of being elected - all he's done for the country was (granted, allegedly) sell off the 2nd mobile license for less than it was worth, but at a local level all he has to do is pull a few strokes - typically just overcoming the red tape associated with accessing allowances and services constituents are entitled to anyway - to get elected.

As long as there are Lowrys there will be gombeen politics in Ireland
Indeed. In this country, as long as you get some funds for tarmac to surface the local roads, you achieve hero status. Its pathetic how we expect so little of our politicians.
 

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Indeed. In this country, as long as you get some funds for tarmac to surface the local roads, you achieve hero status. Its pathetic how we expect so little of our politicians.
We can change that by expecting more and holding them to account for it. People complained about his chicanery and he had to act. It's a start. Granted, whether the Clerk of the Dáil actually does something is another question.... There are many ways to hold them to account. Any Citizen can also make a complaint to the Gardai if they suspect a crime has been committed, including fraud and deception.

People need to be more pro-active with their representatives. Mail them before votes to remind them of their promises. Feighan and others are rightly getting a rough time in their constituencies for lying to their supporters. TDs who do this should be reminded of it wherever they go....
 

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Lets not forget that if FF were still in power this cowboy could be essential to them remaining there--indeed they were quite happy to avail of his vote in the past. How long more can we tolerate a situation where cowboys of this type can remain members of our National Parliament?.
 
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Lowry epitomises two of the real problems with Irish politics:

1 - there's no accountability. There's NO good or acceptable reason Lowry would fail to register this land as an "interest" - he's trying to deceive and/or someone, be it the electorate, the tax man or a partner, so on that basis and the basis that it's a requirement of his "employment" as a TD it is unacceptable that there is no sanction for this - "little" people aren't allowed these "unintended errors" so it's not acceptable that our leaders are.

2 - "local" national politics - people like Lowry are elected for the strokes he pulls locally, not his achievements nationally. At a national level gombeens like Lowry wouldn't have a chance of being elected - all he's done for the country was (granted, allegedly) sell off the 2nd mobile license for less than it was worth, but at a local level all he has to do is pull a few strokes - typically just overcoming the red tape associated with accessing allowances and services constituents are entitled to anyway - to get elected.

As long as there are Lowrys there will be gombeen politics in Ireland
Therein lies one of the biggest problems with this country. It actually suits them to have the services poorly run so they can be seen to do something. Politicians should not be permitted to interfere in individual cases; either the person meets the criteria or they don't and either the system is fit for purpose or it's not.

This thing about politicians pulling favours just papers over the cracks and allows everyone else (the majority) who suffers in silence to continue suffering.
 

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Lets not forget that if FF were still in power this cowboy could be essential to them remaining there--indeed they were quite happy to avail of his vote in the past. How long more can we tolerate a situation where cowboys of this type can remain members of our National Parliament?.


Are you saying FF are at fault for the beast that is now Ml Lowry?
I'm shocked, Lowry is still in the public domain because of his actions in FG, yes FINE GAEL!!!
Anyone care to answer this, cos it hasn't gone away
 
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