LUAS ties to Israeli settlements

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On May 10th the elected members of Dublin City Council took the courageous step of calling on the City Manager (John Tierney) not to renew or sign contracts with Veolia. In 2008 the 'Council' (actually the City Manager not the elected councillors) extended the existing LUAS contract to 2014. It is imperative that Transdev's (with which Veolia is to merge) tender for the Metro-North service be denied and the LUAS contract not be renewed in 2014, given Veolia's collaboration with the Israeli Occupation through the construction and maintenance of transport networks and landfill in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. Write to City Manager John Tierney, the Dept of Transport and the Rail Procurement Agency to make your views against awarding the Metro North contract to Veolia and the renewal of its LUAS contract. The situation is all the more pressing given Veolia's impending merger with Transdev, which is one of the final 2 tenderers for the Metro North contract.

Veolia's links to the illegal-settlements are as follows:

Jerusalem Light rail

In 2003, Veolia won a $500 million contract to build and maintain a light railway that will run across the city of Jerusalem, including occupied East Jerusalem and the illegal settlement in the West Bank. The light railway project violates international law, not only because it is built on occupied Palestinian land, but also because it is an extension of Israel's illegal settlement enterprise and the Apartheid Wall. Through its subsidiary Connex, in Israel, it is one of the companies in the CityPass consortium, contracted to operate the light rail project in Jerusalem. The project plays a key role in sustaining the illegal settlements and ensuring they became a permanent fixture upon Palestinian land, while at the same time maintaining a system of Apartheid that isolates Palestinians and limits their mobility.

Tovlan Landfill in occupied West bank

Through its subsidiary Veolia Environmental Services, it also owns and operates the Tovlan Landfill in the occupied
Jordan Valley, using captured Palestinian land and resources for the needs of the illegal Israeli settlements.

Bus services to the illegal settlements

Veolia's subsidiary, Connex, also operates regular bus services to Israeli settlements in the West Bank, including Beit Horon and Givat Ze'ev along road 443, which is an apartheid road. Palestinians are not allowed to travel on these buses or on these roads in their own occupied country.
 
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I've heard GlaxoSmithKline sell insulin to Israel as well, some of which is used in the settlements. I vote we stop using insulin.

Every time I think we've reached the bottom of the barrel with some posters they find a way a to drizzle further down.

Seeing as how this apparently took place in May, seeing as how there's no source offered which details this "courageous step" and looking at the past history of the OPer, I'd be inclined to think this is all make believe until I see something corroborating it.
 

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What a ridiculous thread. A company is building/operationg (which is it? do you have a source) a light rail in Israel, and the same company is doing the same here. So effing what?
 

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What a ridiculous thread. A company is building/operationg (which is it? do you have a source) a light rail in Israel, and the same company is doing the same here. So effing what?
It isn't in Israel its in the settlements in Occupied West Bank and the Occupied East Jerusalem. They are making the settlements economically-viable and this company has been caught out in other countries for the exact same reason. The Irish people should refuse to do business with companies that are collaborating with Israel's illegal Occupation of the West Bank by doing business in the settlements.
 

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It isn't in Israel its in the settlements in Occupied West Bank and the Occupied East Jerusalem.
So it's a bit like the British building a light rail in Northern Ireland is what you are saying? As an irish nationalist I'd be quite happy if the British were that generous.
 

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So it's a bit like the British building a light rail in Northern Ireland is what you are saying? As an irish nationalist I'd be quite happy if the British were that generous.
Wrong because unlike NI, the West Bank and East Jerusalem are illegally Occupied under UNSC Resolutions such as 242. A campaign of Boycott, Disinvestment and Sanctions are part and parcel of ending the Occupation of the Palestinians and I make no apologies for supporting that. Economic exploitation of a territory has always been part and parcel of imperialism. The Irish taxpayer is entitled to know where his/her money is going, and do not want to bankroll an illegal Occupation and an Apartheid State.
 

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Where's your link to the council calling for the cancellation of the contract due to their ties to Israel FT? Sher just stick it up here so we can all have a look.
 

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Where's your link to the council calling for the cancellation of the contract due to their ties to Israel FT? Sher just stick it up here so we can all have a look.
Here. As stated above it is the councillors who voted for the resolution. Unelected bureaucrats like the City Manager and the RPA make the actual decision, however.
 

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Wrong because unlike NI, the West Bank and East Jerusalem are illegally Occupied under UNSC Resolutions such as 242. A campaign of Boycott, Disinvestment and Sanctions are part and parcel of ending the Occupation of the Palestinians and I make no apologies for supporting that. Economic exploitation of a territory has always been part and parcel of imperialism. The Irish taxpayer is entitled to know where his/her money is going, and do not want to bankroll an illegal Occupation and an Apartheid State.
they are building good infrastructure in this "occupied" territory. Surely the locals would welcome such an investment in 21st centruy infrastructure. No?
 

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Why is Veolia considered exceptional? As this article points out, Intel factories are also built on seized land:

Boycott Israel Campaign

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Then boycott them too until they divest. Anyway, Irish taxpayer's don't want to be bankrolling the Occupation.
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they are building good infrastructure in this "occupied" territory. Surely the locals would welcome such an investment in 21st centruy infrastructure. No?
The instructure in the settlements are making the Occupation economically viable and thereby contributing to the misery of the dispossessed Palestinians at the hands of largely-American settlers who are driving Arabs from their land like Cromwell did to the Irish.
 

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Then boycott them too until they divest. Anyway, Irish taxpayer's don't want to be bankrolling the Occupation.The instructure in the settlements are making the Occupation economically viable and thereby contributing to the misery of the dispossessed Palestinians at the hands of largely-American settlers who are driving Arabs from their land like Cromwell did to the Irish.
When will you ever grow up?

For a start, the Luas contract is nothing to do with Dublin City Council - it is the RPA that issues it.

And the issue is whether Veolia provides a decent, efficient service in Dublin which gives value for money for Irish taxpayers.

And if Veolia is part of the consortium that offers the best deal for taxpayers for Metro North, then so be it. The sooner works starts on MN, the better for Dublin.

It's got feck all to do with Israel or what goes on there.

By your logic we should just tell Intel and any other company in Ireland that has interests in Israel to get out of the country and take all their jobs with them.

Sure why not just tell the US, UK and any other country that deals with Israel to get the hell out of Ireland at the same time.

You really are the most pathetic little fool. And the biggest joke on P.ie at this stage. Get a life - or at least a ride tonight.
 
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I don't care how many palestinians are being oppressed so long as they can run the bloody Luas on time.

Then boycott them too until they divest. Anyway, Irish taxpayer's don't want to be bankrolling the Occupation.
Did you knock round to their houses and ask them?
 

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FT: Silly thread, please desist from cluttering up the site with sh1te like this.
 

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When will you ever grow up?

For a start, the Luas contract is nothing to do with Dublin City Council - it is the RPA that issues it.

And the issue is whether Veolia provides a decent, efficient service in Dublin which gives value for money for Irish taxpayers.
The human-rights context is also important (except to the Zionists of course). The Irish taxpayer is perfectly entitled to decide what causes it will and will not support, including the Occupation of Palestinian land and the economic-exploitation of their lands by corporations.
 

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The human-rights context is also important (except to the Zionists of course). The Irish taxpayer is perfectly entitled to decide what causes it will and will not support, including the Occupation of Palestinian land and the economic-exploitation of their lands by corporations.
It's got f**k all to do with us.

The Irish taxpayer's first and only interest should that of the Irish taxpayer. Period.

We have enough problems in this country. Let the Arab and Muslim countries take care of the Palestinians - there is enough of them.

But wait, they don't really give a flying f**k about the Palestinians - and haven't for the last 70-odd years.
 

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The instructure in the settlements are making the Occupation economically viable and thereby contributing to the misery of the dispossessed Palestinians at the hands of largely-American settlers who are driving Arabs from their land like Cromwell did to the Irish.
If one is going to "occupy" a territory then surely one should make it economically viable. The Palestinians must be delighted because when they get their independant state, it'll have some decent transport. I'd feel exactly the same way about the British building light rail in Belfast, regardless of what the UN's selectively applied morality thinks
 


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