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MacGill Summer School - Good or bad?


retep

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Just wondering about the usefulness of this annual summer talking shop which it seems is an outlet for many politicians to evade the party whip and others to get a load off their mind outside normal constraints of their profession or position but, beyond creating a wealth of soundbytes for the media during the silly season, does it really have a point or a purpose or can it really achieve anything beyond that? For example it strikes me that we have Dempsey again pontificating for the need for electoral reform (Quite right indeed) but he has been a minister in a government for the past 12 years that have failed in any sort of electoral refrom bar eliminating the dual manadate which was in itself supposed to lessen the local parish pump nature of TD's responsibilities, so when or how does he and his party propose to achieve this election reform he keeps going on about?
 

Tomas Mor

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Summer schools are just a stamping ground for the so called intelligencia. Woner if the people who eat dinner in middle of day pay any attention to them. Some of them are financed by county cllrs who get expenses, though Gormley is cutting back on this. They are just glorified junkets. Humbert school in Ballina is on its last legs, no venue in Ballina could be found to host it this year, so its moving to Castlebar.
 

Aristodemus

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They sort of blur into each other. Nothing very much of interest emerges from them
 

cricket

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Just wondering about the usefulness of this annual summer talking shop which it seems is an outlet for many politicians to evade the party whip and others to get a load off their mind outside normal constraints of their profession or position but, beyond creating a wealth of soundbytes for the media during the silly season, does it really have a point or a purpose or can it really achieve anything beyond that? For example it strikes me that we have Dempsey again pontificating for the need for electoral reform (Quite right indeed) but he has been a minister in a government for the past 12 years that have failed in any sort of electoral refrom bar eliminating the dual manadate which was in itself supposed to lessen the local parish pump nature of TD's responsibilities, so when or how does he and his party propose to achieve this election reform he keeps going on about?

I believe they've already agreed on a theme for next year :
The value of short sentences ( and I don't mean court ones ).
 

Fun with Irish

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The people at the McGill event are people who have little or no power to influence events. As such, they attach great importance to talking about them. The people who actually control events are elsewhere, probably on beaches near their secondary residences in Spain or the South of France.
 

The Underdog

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It is a useful barometer of what these people really think, they can’t help but give themselves away when given a platform for their ego. I'm sure it also brings in much business to a neglected part of the country, and coaxes these so called Intelligentsia out of their ivory towers into a visit of the real Ireland, even if it's just for a brief few days.
 

Skypeme

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Do people view this particular gathering as good, bad or indifferent? Probably indifferent, most would consider it a platform for the liberal-left to indulge themselves in a few days of political onanism and verbal flagellation while invoking the name of the 'navvy poet'.
 

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Any P.ie posters in attendance that could give us the down low on the flithy McDowell Cox affair?
 

bill o reilly

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What a colossal waste of time it seems, achieves nothing apart from allowing more ego driven psuedo-intellectuals, right on dudes, washed up writers and even more politicians another forum to spoof and bluff to the hacks from R.T.E. while they have a few days off in Donegal.
This shambles must stop.
 

TODevastated

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a load of self opinionated self important individuals talking rubbish!!

a waste of time!!
 

jmcc

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It is a competiton for a bunch of political wannabes, hasbeens and neverweres to see which one is the biggest assh0le.

Regards...jmcc
 

manna

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I think it's an excellent idea. Gives individual politicians a chance to express their opinions without constraints from the party whip. Get little insights to who they really are.
 

gweedore

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interesting how garret fitzgerald blows his top about the morons in the dail on both sides. a case of too little too late. garrets been involved in politics for x years and had a column in the irish times all through the celtic tiger years and now he spits the dummy out.
garret knows too well how this country has been run, its a bit late to be crying wolf
 

orbit

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It is a useful barometer of what these people really think, they can’t help but give themselves away when given a platform for their ego. I'm sure it also brings in much business to a neglected part of the country, and coaxes these so called Intelligentsia out of their ivory towers into a visit of the real Ireland, even if it's just for a brief few days.
True. As someone suggested in a letter to the IT - maybe they should extend these summer schools and reduce the time given to the Dáil.
 

manna

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That's actually very good idea! Politicians, for once seem interesting and a little less wooden. Lucinda seems to have backbone and a bit of character.
 
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