Make Cork Greater .. to counter balance Dublin



Bea C

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You would..... :) (notice I didn't say anything about being a geographically located slang for English person)

Seriously, the imbalance is basically down to geographical location. Belfast and Dublin are close to the British mainland and closer to Europe. While I know that flight has decreased this importance, it will never completely diminish the importance of Capital City.

I have read back through the points that were made and it is all too academic and aspirational. Real cities develop based on need, those that do not, perish..;)
The pale moon was rising...

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/welcome-to-the-city-of-tralee-population-22-200-1.2558656

 

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I presume the OP was to counter-balance the Make Dublin Greater thread by Volatire! :)

There are actually decent enough motorway and rail links between Cork and Dublin (unlike to some of our other cities, e.g. Limerick). I know Cork was starting to draw up long-term plans to develop its docklands (in Tivoli and Cork docks) with a mass transit system and other infrastructure. There are about 200 available hectares of brownfield land there very close to the city centre and the train station. Plenty of space for new commercial development and thousands of housing units in high-rise apartments. Seems like a good long-term plan to me.
 

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Had to be done :D ... BUT a genuine serious thing to consider for our country? .. THE DUBLIN COUNTER BALANCE

I remember in Urban Geography in College it was always said that a major city in any country. especially smaller countries needs a counter balance. To date in Ireland this has not happened.

For such a small country is it healthy for its economy to have such a large and growing concentration of population and business / jobs up the east coast in Dublin?

Should Irelands 2nd city be this counter balance?

However their are utterances that the current 2nd city should not be that counter balance. That it should be Limerick or Galway?

Limerick can be a counterbalance to Dublin, says Chamber : Limerick Post Newspaper

Just because Cork is the 2nd city does it in fact deserve to remain that and be the Dublin counter balance? Is it geographically good for this even in a small country like Ireland?

"The population of Cork City and its immediate suburbs was 208,669 according to the 2016 census, with in excess of 300,000 in the Metropolitan Cork area." ( via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cork_(city)#Demographics )

Plenty of room for expansion AND Cork also has the second largest natural harbour in the world by navigational area. Another vastly under utilized resource by Ireland?

Home - Cork City Development Plan

Cork City Development Plan 2015‐2021



Of course factored into this is the ever promised but never delivered Cork to Limerick motorway & maybe the same to Waterford to complete the ring?
Cork is great just the way it is. Don't mess with perfection.
 

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I presume the OP was to counter-balance the Make Dublin Greater thread by Volatire? :)

There are decent enough motorway and rail links between Cork and Dublin. I know Cork was starting to draw up long-term plans to develop its docklands (in Tivoli and Cork docks) with a mass transit system and other infrastructure. There are about 200 available hectares of brownfield land there very close to the city centre and the train station. Plenty of space for new commercial development and thousands of housing units in high-rise apartments. Seems like a good plan to me.
We need to restore the rail line between Cork and Wexford too. When I was 10 I remember the train used to stop in a rural village near my home. So we're expected to believe we cannot afford today what we could have 25 yrs ago?
 

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Why what do they do up there.? Besides work for the government and smuggle
Build wind turbines, assemble oil rigs, service oil rigs, service specialist ships, build airplane parts, software development, cyber security, artificial intelligence, build satellites, pharmaceuticals, telecommunications, software, electronics, aerospace, financial technology, etc.

Do you do anything but moan malcontented nonsense?
 

Bea C

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How could someone as gorgeous as yourself be born in Cork. Don't worry, most of us have things in our past we;d prefer not to have.
Loads of Kerry people my age would have been born below in the Bons maternity. In my college days - my College Road days, anyway - it was still running. All maternity facilities have since been moved to CUH, though.
The ward here now is where all Kerry babies would be born, it's been developed a lot.

Kerry is obviously my main strength, but it's great to have a Cork boast that profound too! :)
 

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We could use that 13 billion from Cork's Apple gaff to build a TGV from Dublin to Cork - 40 minutes door to door.

That would help spread some industry farther afield from Dublin.
Apple has done a lot more for the people of Cork than a succession of governments down the years
 

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Cork is a wonderful town. I was there recently on business after a long absence and I was struck again by it's charm and livability.

The sing-song accent reminds me of yeshiva bochurs.

No pub in the British Isles can compare with the Hi-B (I'd love to open something similar in London, just a little living room where cell phones are banished).

The Hayfield Manor is one of the few hotels that can compare with the Merrion in Dublin.

But I'm sorry to say that it will never hold a candle to Dublin economically and the notion of 'balanced development' is little more than a national totem and a pipe dream. Holding back Dublin is not sensible in my view.
 

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Cork is a wonderful town. I was there recently on business after a long absence and I was struck again by it's charm and livability.

The sing-song accent reminds me of yeshiva bochurs.

No pub in the British Isles can compare with the Hi-B (I'd love to open something similar in London, just a little living room where cell phones are banished).

The Hayfield Manor is one of the few hotels that can compare with the Merrion in Dublin.

But I'm sorry to say that it will never hold a candle to Dublin economically and the notion of 'balanced development' is a national totem and a pipe dream. Holding back Dublin is not very sensible in my view.
Cork is a city and not a town.

Idiot.
 

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We could use that 13 billion from Cork's Apple gaff to build a TGV from Dublin to Cork - 40 minutes door to door.

That would help spread some industry farther afield from Dublin.
With some of the smug Dublin gobshytes wanting to keep tax revenue to themselves, maybe the 13bn should stay in Cork😜
 

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Cork is a wonderful town. I was there recently on business after a long absence and I was struck again by it's charm and livability.

The sing-song accent reminds me of yeshiva bochurs.

No pub in the British Isles can compare with the Hi-B (I'd love to open something similar in London, just a little living room where cell phones are banished).

The Hayfield Manor is one of the few hotels that can compare with the Merrion in Dublin.

But I'm sorry to say that it will never hold a candle to Dublin economically and the notion of 'balanced development' is little more than a national totem and a pipe dream. Holding back Dublin is not sensible in my view.
My last night out below, what was it, Friday night week (I was down for a Jack Lynch seminar in UCC - a Corkman over whom I've clashed with quite a few Cork people over the years!), I was approached by an English guy on Oliver Plunkett Street. He told me they were over for a stag weekend: they could get some sophisticated wine bar anywhere, where is it that I would recommend for them to start off?
 

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Cork is a wonderful town. I was there recently on business after a long absence and I was struck again by it's charm and livability.

The sing-song accent reminds me of yeshiva bochurs.

No pub in the British Isles can compare with the Hi-B (I'd love to open something similar in London, just a little living room where cell phones are banished).

The Hayfield Manor is one of the few hotels that can compare with the Merrion in Dublin.

But I'm sorry to say that it will never hold a candle to Dublin economically and the notion of 'balanced development' is little more than a national totem and a pipe dream. Holding back Dublin is not sensible in my view.
Cork is a city and not a town.

Idiot.
That's Cork people for ya! You try to be nice to them, and they just call you an idiot! :D
 


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