Marc Coleman "The Best is yet to come"

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Marc Coleman "The Best is yet to come". Has anybody read this book, and if so what did you make of it?
In the book he makes certain points such as

1) We develop closers links with the diaspora
2) Densify our urban areas
3) Re-balancing the wealth of the provinces- Connaught in particular
4) Develop a better transport system
5) And doing more to encourage the development, and continuation of the Irish language and culture.

The book has many other points. If you've read the book (or have heard about the proposals elsewhere), what did you make of the book- and its proposals and possibilities?
 


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Did you check the date he wrote it?

"Forget the Celtic Tiger; you ain't seen nothing yet"
 

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around the beginning of last year I think (possibly January 2008?)
 

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September 2007

He's a bit like Brendan O'Connor advising "smart people" to buy houses at the start of the slide. Poor Marc still has a red face over that one.

I can only speculate he probably started it in 2005 and dawdled over it for so long that he couldn't have picked a worse time to see it get printed.
 

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I have. Now I weep.

Seriously, post-celtic tiger Ireland sucks.

How's that for indept analysis?
 

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what did you make of the Ireland reaching a population of 12 million+ by mid-century? Up from under 6 million today
 

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or maybe more- not sure if the book meant an all Island population, or just that of the Repoublic
 

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Marc Coleman "The Best is yet to come". Has anybody read this book, and if so what did you make of it?
In the book he makes certain points such as

1) We develop closers links with the diaspora
2) Densify our urban areas
3) Re-balancing the wealth of the provinces- Connaught in particular
4) Develop a better transport system
5) And doing more to encourage the development, and continuation of the Irish language and culture.

The book has many other points. If you've read the book (or have heard about the proposals elsewhere), what did you make of the book- and its proposals and possibilities?
The last 12 years of FF mis-rule has done very little to achive any of these 5 targets. Leadership during the boom with the ability to think through hard decisions, not the Bertie Bloat got us into the sh1te we're in now.
 

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I'd say population is determined by economic prosperity and by that I mean a perception of prosperity among the wider population, not the D4 'intelligentsia' (pocket-fillers). And critically for Ireland the movement of said population from the country to the cities etc.

I recall reading not so long ago that Ireland and Italy were the only EU countries with an expanding population of under 25's. I'd say that the current financial constraints will drop Ireland's native population off a temporary cliff.

Strangely enough the fact that Ireland has say 1 million in a major city and three quarters of the rest spread around the country probably inhibited our technical economic development for a long time and this only began to ease during the Tiger years when we were dispensing tax honeymoons to light electronics assembly firms to locate around the country.

In the post crunch world we may come to be glad of the urban/rural split in Ireland and we should really also be well set to meet emissions targets as they become reinforced in international law.

The danger is that we may become, because of the desirability of Ireland as a place to retire for other Europeans such as the Dutch and Germans who live pretty much cheek by jowl in their countries, a kind of retirement home for wealthy foreigners and that brings dislocation and resentment in local areas. See Wales and the second home phenomena.
 

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Check out the testimonials on amazon:

[ame=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Yet-Come-Marc-Coleman/dp/1842181424]The Best Is Yet to Come: Amazon.co.uk: Marc Coleman: Books[/ame]

T.K. Whitaker
'A lively and perceptive assessment of factors shaping our future as an economy and a people.'

Professor Joe Lee
'A terrific read.'

Also the user comments:

This book is destined to become the Irish version of Glassman & Hasslett and will be found, not in bookshops, but in the bibliography of many a budding MBA student's case study report on "The Rise and Fall of Celtic Tiger Ireland".

ROTFL
 

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what did you make of the Ireland reaching a population of 12 million+ by mid-century? Up from under 6 million today
It's entirely possible and we do need to increase out population dramatically, logically speaking the lack of young'uns and the huge wedge of oldies is a pension ticking time bomb. Not just here but also around Europe.

Get shaggin'
 

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lol good advice cookie monster- i'll take that one down!
 

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So what do you think of the potential goals and possibilites put out by Coleman- are they reasonable, or far-fetched in the current climate.
 

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He did make some good points in his book but for the most part they're outdated now and need revision, as they were mainly written on the assumption we were in a neverending boom.

His pieces on traffic congestion, urban sprawl, rip-off-ireland were years too late as they were already a reality in the country.

It was an opportunistic book, built on the premise of neverending fantasy at a time other economists were already loudly stating that it was all inevitably going to go terribly wrong. FF and Bertie rubbished any such comments.

If someone had published a book in August, 2001 saying the threat of terrorism was a thing of the past and the world was never a more secure place you'd have an idea of the timing of Coleman's book.

For the most part it's irrelevant commentary now and his arguments obsolete.
 

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what did you make of the Ireland reaching a population of 12 million+ by mid-century? Up from under 6 million today
Not a chance in hell as long as people are fleeing abject maladministration as they seem to be now.
 

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It's entirely possible and we do need to increase out population dramatically, logically speaking the lack of young'uns and the huge wedge of oldies is a pension ticking time bomb. Not just here but also around Europe.

Get shaggin'
Could you be a bit more circumspect about who you encourage to breed?

Thanks
 


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