Maximum facilitation'

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Earlier this month, Theresa May divided her top team of ministers into two working groups to hammer out their differences on Brexit.

One group is considering a "customs partnership" whereby the UK would collect tariffs on behalf of the EU - but without the need for new border checks.

Meanwhile, Mr Davis' group is looking at "maximum facilitation" - a solution based on using technology to minimise the need for customs checks after Brexit

David Davis tells businesses hard border to be avoided - BBC News

As a famous British person said "i don't believe it". If I was the boss of the this shower I would sack the lot of them.

They are doing this after they have already been in talks with the EU. Holly stuff up to this they did not have an agreed plan when dealing with the EU officials.

No one is driving the British brexit bus. God help the DUP as they will have so much explaining to do once this mess is finished. The dup do not want a hard border but Brexit was all about getting deals with other parts of the world and thus requires a hard border.

They could ask the EU to give the UK a deal that will boost the UK economy and allows them to have all the best stuff of being in the EU without the costs. I think they are currently sending mail to the EU in lapland. Dear Santa...........
 


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Nigel Lawson pointed out on Pat Kenny's show this morning that there are already some cameras on the border.
 

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Nigel Lawson pointed out on Pat Kenny's show this morning that there are already some cameras on the border.
They can have as many cameras as they like. How the hell do they make any difference?

A information video of the weakness of the old non contact search.


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If we used GPS tracking of haulage trucks that would help.
 

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Nigel Lawson pointed out on Pat Kenny's show this morning that there are already some cameras on the border.
There is no such thing as a border that can be policed by cameras alone, unless you're talking about two countries in a single market together. Once Brexit happens there will need to be manned customs posts at the border, or somewhere near it, to enforce whatever infringements are being spotted by the cameras.
 

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We know what a gps tracker is. Explain how you think it can be used to police an infrastructure free border.
Well if you allow law enforcement to access the location data, that would allow for ad hoc inspections.
 

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Nigel Lawson pointed out on Pat Kenny's show this morning that there are already some cameras on the border.
WTF has that slag got to do with our wee Country?



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Nigel Lawson pointed out on Pat Kenny's show this morning that there are already some cameras on the border.


He should have asked him did he support a smugglers paradise:lol: would certainly have been a very valid question on behalf of taxpayers.:lol:
 

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He should have asked him did he support a smugglers paradise:lol: would certainly have been a very valid question on behalf of taxpayers.:lol:
There is already fuel smuggling on the border with the status quo.
 

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He should have asked him did he support a smugglers paradise:lol: would certainly have been a very valid question on behalf of taxpayers.:lol:
You should ask Slab and his mates.
 

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Well if you allow law enforcement to access the location data, that would allow for ad hoc inspections.
You seriously expect to police an external border with the single European market through ad hoc inspections of lorries? Why do you think every other country which borders the EU doesn't pursue this master plan?
 

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You seriously expect to police an external border with the single European market through ad hoc inspections of lorries? Why do you think every other country which borders the EU doesn't pursue this master plan?
Im not advocating systematic inspections but only ad hoc ones in random locations.
 

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Im not advocating systematic inspections but only ad hoc ones in random locations.
Answer the question you were asked.

"You seriously expect to police an external border with the single European market through ad hoc inspections of lorries? Why do you think every other country which borders the EU doesn't pursue this master plan?"
 

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Answer the question you were asked.

"You seriously expect to police an external border with the single European market through ad hoc inspections of lorries? Why do you think every other country which borders the EU doesn't pursue this master plan?"
Im advocating moving the enforcement to the interior of both jurisdictions, and to spatialise it so it doesnt delay traffic unduly in just one place. Its spreading the burden to different parts of the interior.
 

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Im advocating moving the enforcement to the interior of both jurisdictions, and to spatialise it so it doesnt delay traffic unduly in just one place. Its spreading the burden to different parts of the interior.
So in what location in South Armagh/Tyrone/Fermanagh do you think would be a good location for this inspection?
 

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Im advocating moving the enforcement to the interior of both jurisdictions, and to spatialise it so it doesnt delay traffic unduly in just one place. Its spreading the burden to different parts of the interior.
So you want check points all over NI instead of just at the border? You clearly have no idea what would be involved in such an exercise...

"The use of tracking devices on lorries crossing the Irish border after Brexit would bepointless, the Brexit secretary, David Davis, has been told during a hastily arranged visit to Northern Ireland.

The Freight Trade Association told Davis that knowing when a lorry crossed the border would serve no purpose and that the idea was not a potential solution to the problematic border issue.

“We told him that it doesn’t work and is a non-starter,” said Seamus Lehany, the head of the Freight Trade Association in Northern Ireland.

“A haulier could lift a full trailer in Birmingham but it could contain 40 different consignments from 40 different producers. Then it comes to Northern Ireland and is broken down with mixed loads on different trucks going to different places, so a tracking device telling you the original truck had crossed a border doesn’t tell you anything,” said Lehany.

“The Irish border situation is complicated, with physical and political constraints that need careful consideration before a workable solution can be found,” he added."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/21/tracking-lorries-irish-border-issue-hauliers-david-davis
 


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