May to rebuff Irish with customs border demand



Nordie Northsider

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It'll be worth it to rub Sinn Fein's nose in it. Gerry Adams' United Ireland is the return of the B Specials. Brexit could also give the Brits a chance to abolish all the free handouts like Stormont. Take care of the DUP anmd stick it to Sinn Fein now tghat the latter lap dogs have served their purpose.
Britain survived before the EU. It will get through
That is one of the most stupid things I have ever read (and I read the Irish Times).
 

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Ministers are preparing to rebuff the Irish government and insist on the need for a customs border between the north and south of the island after Brexit.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/may-to-rebuff-irish-with-customs-border-demand-qbjd78b0r

........................... Wonder what will happen...........?

"Irish smuggling gangs poised to make MILLIONS from new custom rules after Brexit

IRISH smuggling gangs are ready to make millions of dollars exploiting new opportunities in the illegal sales of alcohol, cigarettes, fuel and livestock on its country’s borders post Brexit."

Irish smuggling gangs poised to make MILLIONS from new custom rules after Brexit | UK | News | Express.co.uk
Our big row on this will be with the eu, not the uk.

We can't prevent the Brits putting border infrastructure in. But that doesn't mean we should do the same. We should have no truck with border infrastructure, and tell the eu if they want it to bring in Germans French etc to operate it.

Good to see Leo has told the revenue commissioners to desist from acquiring property etc around ðundalk to get ready.
 

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That is one of the most stupid things I have ever read (and I read the Irish Times).
The Adams strategy has failed. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland should thank him for doing the state some service. Dress up in your period uniforms, argue in your impotent mini Parliaments but know that Sinn Fein is the hollowest party in these islands. A united sovereign Ireland is off the cards and it was Sinn Fein wot done it.
 

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If this report is true, it flies in the face of what the Tory party themselves have set out as policy going forward, and won't sit at all well with their DUP allies.

This smacks of kite-flying, and rabble baiting. Both titles have form here.

If it does morph into policy, then quid pro quo. Stick Frontex on the Border and wrap it up tight. And then hit back very hard when the UK comes knocking about postBrexit trade deals.
 

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Hopefully it will. In the meantime, the population of this rotating planet will continue to delude itself in thinking that the EU, UN, USA and all the rest are great ways to run the place.
Because China, Africa, the Middle East and North Korea are better off?
 

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The thing about clichés is that they are so often true. Time will tell, of course. Most parties will claim - post ex facto - that their aims have been achieved. The Earth will continue to rotate.
And the Six County economy will tank.
 
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If this report is true, it flies in the face of what the Tory party themselves have set out as policy going forward, and won't sit at all well with their DUP allies.

This smacks of kite-flying, and rabble baiting. Both titles have form here.

If it does morph into policy, then quid pro quo. Stick Frontex on the Border and wrap it up tight. And then hit back very hard when the UK comes knocking about postBrexit trade deals.
Definitely - sure we have no exports to the UK.:roll:
 

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If this happens he south will be inconvenienced but the north will be incapacitated. The logical response will be for a major push for a united Ireland supporrted by all nationalist political parties on the island. In fact if this is British policy then there real intention must be to push the north out of the UK in order to simplify Brexit for themselves. A final kick in the balls for unionism.
 

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There is absolutely no way the Brits can re impose the Border at this stage short of seeing a renewal of 'The Troubles'

They know that

- but relying on the DUP to keep them in Power in Westminster

- puts the Tories between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea......
 

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And who'll pay the price for the tariffs imposed on imports from the UK when you introduce these punitive trade arrangements?
Facile argument. No one is compelled to buy British. Either domestic, other Eurozone, or other foreign competitors will undercut U.K. exporters. That's how markets work.
 

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Ministers are preparing to rebuff the Irish government and insist on the need for a customs border between the north and south of the island after Brexit.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/may-to-rebuff-irish-with-customs-border-demand-qbjd78b0r

........................... Wonder what will happen...........?

"Irish smuggling gangs poised to make MILLIONS from new custom rules after Brexit

IRISH smuggling gangs are ready to make millions of dollars exploiting new opportunities in the illegal sales of alcohol, cigarettes, fuel and livestock on its country’s borders post Brexit."

Irish smuggling gangs poised to make MILLIONS from new custom rules after Brexit | UK | News | Express.co.uk
The following is interesting.

Richard Bird of the Huffington Post

Can we dump the EU and rely on ‘global trade’? Philip Hammond has just been to Brazil on a little trip which must have cost the taxpayer £10,000. He has announced a plan of £3 billion in subsidies to encourage British firms to export there. £3 billion of our taxpayer money, to send stuff 6000 miles across the Atlantic to a country which represents 1% of our EU market, instead of sending the same stuff 23 miles across the Channel. Madness? Judge for yourself.
These are the facts; In 2016, our exports to the countries where Liam Fox, Boris Johnson and Philip Hammond have been making expensive jaunts to promote British exports were:
Brazil 1.9 bn
India 3.5 bn
Australia 4.2 bn
China 14.1 bn
United States 48.3 bn
While we exported to the EU/EEA. ............... £ 156 bn.
It will take an awful lot of ‘promotion’ to make up for losing our biggest market. And trade deals can take an awful long time to be agreed....
Imports? Most of our food imports are from the EU. If we leave, food prices are forecast to rise by up to 20%.
 
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Facile argument. No one is compelled to buy British. Either domestic, other Eurozone, or other foreign competitors will undercut U.K. exporters. That's how markets work.
Any evidence to support that hope?
 

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Ministers are preparing to rebuff the Irish government and insist on the need for a customs border between the north and south of the island after Brexit.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/may-to-rebuff-irish-with-customs-border-demand-qbjd78b0r

........................... Wonder what will happen...........?

"Irish smuggling gangs poised to make MILLIONS from new custom rules after Brexit

IRISH smuggling gangs are ready to make millions of dollars exploiting new opportunities in the illegal sales of alcohol, cigarettes, fuel and livestock on its country’s borders post Brexit."

Irish smuggling gangs poised to make MILLIONS from new custom rules after Brexit | UK | News | Express.co.uk
While it makes geographical sense to make the border the Irish Sea, the British would feel that this would take Ireland one step closer to a united Ireland and in their minds this would register as loosing and the British arrogance still makes them believe superiority is theirs.
The British give nought for peace in Ireland, the Good Friday Agreement or anything that brings stability to a once colonised country.

They will throw peace in Ireland, trade, the free movement area and the ex pats living in Ireland to the dogs if it makes them look like they, in their own feeble minds, won a war. They will not care that this isolates Ireland from Europe as they want desperately for another country to exit the EU, so that they can crow 'how right that they were' to leave. They care nought for the effect that it would have on Ireland or any other country that they could manipulated into leaving.

They expected other countries to leave and thus be the 'leaders' again.
 

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Pardon the old and tired cliché; time will tell. In the meantime the EU will continue it's great work...
The EU is a mess that exists to serve the well heeled but brexit is being implemented by a party that exists to serve the well heeled.

Brexit has merits but oh boy there looking rough doing it.
 


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