McAleese getting involved in politics

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From the Belfast Telegraph,

"Irish President Mary McAleese has launched an unprecedented attack on the Republic’s lawyers, economists and regulators for their role in the financial crisis.

And she made it clear she feels the light-touch regulation espoused by the Irish government is to blame for the economic collapse which has resulted in tens of thousands of people in mortgage arrears.

Her comments are all the more hard-hitting because it is highly-unusual for a President to pass such concise and critical judgment on a major political issue while in office".




This is not the first time she has spoken on political issues when it is a clear rule that the president does not.
She should resign or otherwise keep her mouth shut.
 


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From the Belfast Telegraph,

"Irish President Mary McAleese has launched an unprecedented attack on the Republic’s lawyers, economists and regulators for their role in the financial crisis.
And she made it clear she feels the light-touch regulation espoused by the Irish government is to blame for the economic collapse which has resulted in tens of thousands of people in mortgage arrears.

Her comments are all the more hard-hitting because it is highly-unusual for a President to pass such concise and critical judgment on a major political issue while in office".




This is not the first time she has spoken on political issues when it is a clear rule that the president does not.
She should resign or otherwise keep her mouth shut.
Political in that she avoids mentioning ahern and cowen? the two people who actually caused the crisis. Or Lenihan the man making it expedentially worse?

Who voted her in?
Oh yeah - no one.
 

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Belfast Telegraph said:
Her comments are all the more hard-hitting because it is highly-unusual for a President to pass such concise and critical judgment on a major political issue while in office".

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No it's not, she is head of state and an intelligent woman who is entitled to speak her mind.
She always has, why be fake and act like a plastic head?
Better to have someone who has an opinion and might even put their foot in it once and a while than have someone who is paraded around like a speechless doll.

It only seems unusual for the Unionist journalist who probably thinks that QE2's head of state roll is normal, ie. having no opinion and basically being trusted with nothing other than waving.
 

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What do you want, another hypocrite to tell Cowen what a great job he is doing, It should never be wrong to tell the truth.
 

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This is not the first time she has spoken on political issues when it is a clear rule that the president does not.
She should resign or otherwise keep her mouth shut.
This is a woman who has worked hard to take the guns off Loyalist paramilitaries and succeeded.
Her opinion obviously matters and fair play to her for voicing her concerns.

Mary Robinson was also very outspoken - get used to it.
She broke the mould and McAleese is rightfully continuing on the role in a way it should be done.
The Irish President should not mirror the British monarch.

Ireland doesn't have a Queen, it has an elected person from a political background as president who shouldn't be censored and should be as entitled to speak her mind as any other citizen.

If you really want someone to stand there and say nothing there are plenty of unused manikans in the shops the bankers closed , why not elect one?
You could put a nice dress on it and lots of lewlerry, drag it around in a gold carriage and make it wave once and a while.
 
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This is a woman who has worked hard to take the guns off Loyalist paramilitaries and succeeded.
Her opinion obviously matters and fair play to her for voicing her concerns.

Mary Robinson was also very outspoken - get used to it.
She broke the mould and McAleese is rightfully continuing on the role in a way it should be done.
The Irish President should not mirror the British monarch.

Ireland doesn't have a Queen, it has an elected person from a political background as president who shouldn't be censored and should be as entitled to speak her mind as any other citizen.

There's plenty of unused manikans in the shops the bankers closed if you want someone to stand there and say nothing, why not elect one?
You see st333ve they'd rather have Ahern as the Pres to bullsh!t how he and FF ran the country so well........................:mad:
 

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Well McAleese wasn't elected because she was apolitical, she was elected becuase of who she is and will be elected again because of who she is.

Ahern could be presient, he could travel the world selling plastic leprachauns to stupid foreigners and make a fortune giving speeches alongside his mate Tony.
Think of the money he'd make, while never having to say anything negative about his banker firends because it might upset certain sections of the public who want him to be a plastic figure head - just like the Queen who is not 'highly-unusual' atall, unlike McAleese who must look like a freak for merely speaking!
 
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Well McAleese wasn't elected because she was apolitical, she was elected becuase of who she is and will be elected again because of who she is, if she's even challenged.

Ahern could be presient, he could travel the world selling plastic leprachauns to stupid foreigners and make a fortune giving speeches alongside his mate Tony.
Think of the money he'd make, while never having to say anything negative about his banker firends because it might upset certain sections of the public who want him to be a plastic figure head - just like the Queen who is not 'highly-unusual' atall, unlike McAleese who must look like a freak for merely speaking!
 

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Well McAleese wasn't elected because she was apolitical, she was elected becuase of who she is and will be elected again because of who she is, if she's even challenged.
Ehhhh....no she won't. She's had two terms.


If she wants to comment on something, then she should.
 

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Ehhhh....no she won't. She's had two terms.


If she wants to comment on something, then she should.
The Irish President is not supposed to comment on political matters or criticize the Irish govt.
Thats called playing politics.
Irish Presidents are meant to be above all that since once they enter the political arena they cease to represent the nation which is their primary function.
[McAleese has never understood that simple premiss]

McAleese has made several such serious faux pas.
Its connected with her" Norn Irishness".

Criticizing serving govt administrations is par for the course.

Its to do with widespread "norn Ireland catholic resentment" at their southern counterparts political independence.

Very few of them ever get over it.

The sooner dual citizenship for Northern Ireland whingers is removed from the Irish statute book the better.
 

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Political in that she avoids mentioning ahern and cowen? the two people who actually caused the crisis. Or Lenihan the man making it expedentially worse?

Who voted her in?
Oh yeah - no one.
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The Irish people elected her in 1997 - ahead of four other candidates.

It was hardly her fault no one chose to run against her in 2004 therefore she was returned unopposed - as set out in Bunreacht na hEireann.

Article 12.4
4° Former or retiring Presidents may become candidates on their own nomination.

5° Where only one candidate is nominated for the office of President it shall not be necessary to proceed to a ballot for his election.
BUNREACHT NA hÉIREANN
Would you have preferred the expense - never mind the absurdity - of holding an election where there was just one candidate?
 

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Could a bored ex-President run for the Dail?
 

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The Irish President is not supposed to comment on political matters or criticize the Irish govt.
Thats called playing politics.
Irish Presidents are meant to be above all that since once they enter the political arena they cease to represent the nation which is their primary function.
[McAleese has never understood that simple premiss]

McAleese has made several such serious faux pas.
Its connected with her" Norn Irishness".
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Maybe Mary Robinson visited the Giants Causeway once and caught a bit of the 'Norn' disease too?
Her outspoken views must be explained by some sort of northern prejudice too eh?

Or was it because she had a bit of self respect and didn't want her experience in life to mean nothing after she was elected as President (a position gained because of who a person is, not because who they can pretend to be.)
 

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The Irish President is not supposed to comment on political matters or criticize the Irish govt.
Thats called playing politics.
Irish Presidents are meant to be above all that since once they enter the political arena they cease to represent the nation which is their primary function.
[McAleese has never understood that simple premiss]
I'm aware of that, I'm still maintaining she should be allowed to say what she wants.
 

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The Irish President is not supposed to comment on political matters or criticize the Irish govt.
Have you a link to any legislation or job description that backs this up, or are you mixing up Irish President with British Monarch?
If as you say, censorship is something the Irish president is legally obliged to engage in the Mary Robinson would have been sacked , and McAleese - long ago.

Please don't also mix the Irish President position up with the American President one too, as that's also a different position.
 

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The Irish President is not supposed to comment on political matters or criticize the Irish govt.
Thats called playing politics.
Irish Presidents are meant to be above all that since once they enter the political arena they cease to represent the nation which is their primary function.
[McAleese has never understood that simple premiss]

McAleese has made several such serious faux pas.
Its connected with her" Norn Irishness".

Criticizing serving govt administrations is par for the course.

Its to do with widespread "norn Ireland catholic resentment" at their southern counterparts political independence.

Very few of them ever get over it.

The sooner dual citizenship for Northern Ireland whingers is removed from the Irish statute book the better.
Not the case FM.

There is nothing in the constitution that precludes the president from talking about politics - or anything else for that matter - as long as it has the approval of the government of the day.

Article 13.7.

1° The President may, after consultation with the Council of State, communicate with the Houses of the Oireachtas by message or address on any matter of national or public importance.

2° The President may, after consultation with the Council of State, address a message to the Nation at any time on any such matter.

3° Every such message or address must, however, have received the approval of the Government.

BUNREACHT NA hÉIREANN
As for this ridiculous guff from you:

The sooner dual citizenship for Northern Ireland whingers is removed from the Irish statute book the better.
Irish citizenship as a birthright for everyone born on the island of Ireland is a constitutional right - as approved by a referendum in 1998 where 94.4% of voters backed the new Articles 2 & 3.

Bottom line is that ain't gonna change so quit whingeing yourself.
 

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He's mixing up the role of QE2 who is apolitical with the role of Irish President, while attacking people who a have an opinion and blaming it all on being an unruly Nordy - even though she is not the first President to have opinions.
He also believes that people on the south of the British enforced partition are the only people entitled to claim the nationality of Irish, would would infact mean that McAleese has some other nationality.
 
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