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Michele Bachmann: increasingly powerful US wingnut


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Michele Bachmann is being spoken of highly, and getting prominence
Michele Bachmann, queen of the right | World news | The Observer
But Minnesotans might soon have to give up some of their hard-won reputation for quiet reasonableness thanks to one of their own, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, a fiercely rightwing darling of the Tea Party, who is rapidly becoming one of the most famous politicians in America and may yet outshine Sarah Palin as a potential Republican presidential pick for 2012.
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She is due to star in a coming rightwing documentary called Socialism: A Clear and Present Danger, in which she says American citizens have become "indentured servants" of their government. The film uses clips of Obama alongside Stalin and Fidel Castro. "We need to reverse course so we can get back to freedom," she says.
And is at the least a likely VP contender for 2012

She
  1. Is a creationist wingnut
  2. Belongs to a church that teaches the Pope is the anti Christ
  3. Anti mercury conspiracy wingnut
  4. Believes global warming is a hoax
  5. Has called for Democrats to be investigated for "un-American" views
  6. Has criticized the USD education system for being socialist and globalist
  7. Has criticized a Republican governor for Marxist beliefs
  8. Thinks even taxation policy should come from the Bible
  9. Opposes globalisation and wants America to become isolationist
  10. Has said that gay people are all mentally ill and target children
Michele Bachmann - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In 1993, Bachmann and other parents in Stillwater, Minnesota opened New Heights Charter School. The oversight of New Heights soon encountered problems when a group of concerned parents and the school district questioned if the insertion of Christianity into the school's curriculum amounted to using public tax money to fund a religious school.
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According to Stephens, school officials also refused to allow the in-school screening of the Disney film Aladdin, saying that it endorsed witchcraft and promoted paganism.


Bachmann is a member of a church that is part of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, whose doctrine teaches that the Roman Catholic papacy is the Antichrist identified in Scripture.

"There is 200 times more mercury in each filling in Congresswoman Bachmann's teeth than there is in a compact fluorescent light bulb."
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Bachmann supports the teaching of intelligent design in public school science classes.
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She wrote that education laws passed by Congress in 2001, including "School To Work" and "Goals 2000", created a new national school curriculum that embraced "a socialist, globalist worldview; loyalty to all government and not America."
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Bachmann said that the gay community was specifically targeting children and that "our children... are the prize for this community."[110] Bachmann has said that people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgendered suffer from "sexual dysfunction" and "sexual identity disorders."[111]

It looks like the US faces a stark choice...


cYp
 

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Michele Bachmann is being spoken of highly, and getting prominence
Michele Bachmann, queen of the right | World news | The Observer


And is at the least a likely VP contender for 2012

She
  1. Is a creationist wingnut
  2. Belongs to a church that teaches the Pope is the anti Christ
  3. Anti mercury conspiracy wingnut
  4. Believes global warming is a hoax
  5. Has called for Democrats to be investigated for "un-American" views
  6. Has criticized the USD education system for being socialist and globalist
  7. Has criticized a Republican governor for Marxist beliefs
  8. Thinks even taxation policy should come from the Bible
  9. Opposes globalisation and wants America to become isolationist
  10. Has said that gay people are all mentally ill and target children
Michele Bachmann - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



It looks like the US faces a stark choice...


cYp
Bachmann is just another example of how the loony rights has taken over swathes of American politics.

Just like the end of the "managed capitalism" of the New Deal brought about the Loony Left, the end of the cycle of "unbridled free markets" has brought about the "Loony Right" of Bachman, Palin & the real leaders of the movement - Fox News and the deranged band of right wing shock-jocks. Add in the panderers like Rand Paul, who may know better but who needs the votes, and you have a powerful mix.

Of course, you fear that they will win. It is not the win itself that is to be feared, but the destruction and havoc they will cause to the USA and the World, probably makng George W. Bush look like an inetllectual giant.
 

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Anybody who wishes to rule based on the teachings of the Bible is as much of a threat to the world as Islamic fundamentalists who wish Shariah Law to be introduced. It is about time the Christian wingnuts got more attention.
 

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The Catholic vote is the key swing vote in US politics so it is unlikely that any party would nominate someone who would alienate that vote. The primary voters will be looking for someone electable in 2012. Tea-party supporters will vote against Obama anyway so the challenge for the GOP is to find someone who will win the centre.
 

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The Catholic vote is the key swing vote in US politics so it is unlikely that any party would nominate someone who would alienate that vote. The primary voters will be looking for someone electable in 2012. Tea-party supporters will vote against Obama anyway so the challenge for the GOP is to find someone who will win the centre.
There is a strong rumour that Jeb Bush will run for the Republican nomination in 2012 as a party uniter between the wings of Palin and Romney. He has alraedy enlisted Karl Rove, supposedly the "brains" behind George W.

Well, we know George W definitely had his brains behind him.

Jeb was Governor of Florida when George was elected, and was always supposed to be his Dad's chosen heir, despite being the youngest. He has some advantages - a fluent Spanish speaker, he could wean back some of the decisive Hispanic vote that went for Obama last time out. Unlike Palin, he will actually win swing votes. However, he might alienate the immigrant-hating wing fo the party. And another Bush? Would it play in Peoria? You can almost hear people groan.

Rand Paul, the glibertarian Messiah from Kentucky, has already bent his knee to the Bushes. Jeb is going to Kentucky to fund-raise for him.
 

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What surprises me most about stories like this is how extreme and divisive views seem to get so much traction in the US, and in particular its media. To me it seems that there is a fundamental national identity problem in the US. Maybe it's not so evident at state level (I could be wrong), but when politicians try to make the transition to the national stage, there doesn't appear to be much middle ground on which opposing candidates can co-exist.

Why? I think much of the dissonance and extremism in national US politics comes from a WASP fear that they are rapidly losing their pre-eminence, and that the admirable institutions, customs and cultural values they established the US on are eroding, and being supplanted by various other forces. These forces include:

- cohesive, sometimes exclusionary, ethnic values imported by large communities that established themselves after the founding of the union (e.g. Hispanics, Chinese, Irish, Italians) (Mexicans are another issue); and
- mostly non-conservative value systems that bind other groups together (e.g. socialism, environmentalism, Islam).

All these developments challenge the nature of the US as founded. But the problem is it's hard to attack competing groups on a racial basis without coming over all, I suppose, racist. So the threatened incumbents develop other codes that mark certain people as perceived 'outsiders' (e.g. gays, socialists, un-Americans) and bind together those who feel threatened by those self-same 'outsiders'.

I think this whole phenomenon is an attempt by one racial, religious orientation to maintain its status against others. It's a real problem for the US. Until WASPs (writ large) become a tangible minority across most of the US (i.e. their message gets less and less traction and they alienate more and more 'others'), I think it's going to persist.

As an aside, I think this is also why the whole Tea Party thing is ultimately doomed to failure, even if it manages short-terms successes.
 

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Jeb married a Mexican American, converted to Catholicism and has the last name Bush. I think he's pretty much unelectable.
 

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Jeb married a Mexican American, converted to Catholicism and has the last name Bush. I think he's pretty much unelectable.
It is not a great choice, is it?

Sarah Palin - the roaring "Mamma Grizzly" who is so stupid she ducks press conferences (though, no one seems to notice). Intellectually stupid, but politically cunning (who else had that? George W. Bush).
Mitt Romney - the man who brought Obamacare to Massachusetts may years ago, something which follows him around like the smell of flatulence. The prototypcial "Replublican in Name only".
Jeb Bush - well, you said it , not me.
Mick Huckabee - the banjo playing Fundamentalist.

Perhaps, Huckabee might be the Uniter, though he is despised by the neo-cons, who love Palin because she will give them what they want - a war with Iran and the expulsion of the Palestinians from the West Bank.
 

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Anybody who wishes to rule based on the teachings of the Bible is as much of a threat to the world as Islamic fundamentalists who wish Shariah Law to be introduced. It is about time the Christian wingnuts got more attention.
When Christian wing-nuts fly planes into buildings, use force to topple governments, stone people to death for adultery and apostasy perhaps then they can be considered on a par with Islamism. Bachman can waffle all she likes. There is a constitution in the US and a Supreme Court that simply will not allow her crazy beliefs to become public policy.

Jeb married a Mexican American, converted to Catholicism and has the last name Bush. I think he's pretty much unelectable.
Yep.
 

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It is not a great choice, is it?

Sarah Palin - the roaring "Mamma Grizzly" who is so stupid she ducks press conferences (though, no one seems to notice). Intellectually stupid, but politically cunning (who else had that? George W. Bush).
Mitt Romney - the man who brought Obamacare to Massachusetts may years ago, something which follows him around like the smell of flatulence. The prototypcial "Replublican in Name only".
Jeb Bush - well, you said it , not me.
Mick Huckabee - the banjo playing Fundamentalist.

Perhaps, Huckabee might be the Uniter, though he is despised by the neo-cons, who love Palin because she will give them what they want - a war with Iran and the expulsion of the Palestinians from the West Bank.

We're forgetting:
Tim Pawlenty (a forerunner)
Mitch Daniels (very interesting)
Chris Christie (" ")
Gary Johnson (an electable libertarian?)
Ron Paul (as always)
Scott Brown (albeit he'd never get it)


But Bachmann would essentially only get a Palin or a Huckabee nomination (at a stretch)
 

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I think this whole phenomenon is an attempt by one racial, religious orientation to maintain its status against others. It's a real problem for the US. Until WASPs (writ large) become a tangible minority across most of the US (i.e. their message gets less and less traction and they alienate more and more 'others'), I think it's going to persist.
Excellent post.

P.
 

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The Left Liberals are really lost without a Hate figure.

As George Bush is now out of the picture they need someone else to focus their hatred on.

Michele Bachmann ticks all the boxes for the Left to focus their attention on.
 

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When Christian wing-nuts fly planes into buildings, use force to topple governments, stone people to death for adultery and apostasy perhaps then they can be considered on a par with Islamism. Bachman can waffle all she likes. There is a constitution in the US and a Supreme Court that simply will not allow her crazy beliefs to become public policy.
Reminds me of Homer Simpson extolling the US because a guy like him can get into the White House. To which Abe Simpson's retort was: "We've a whole system set up to prevent people like you from ever becoming president".
 

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The Left Liberals are really lost without a Hate figure.

As George Bush is now out of the picture they need someone else to focus their hatred on.

Michele Bachmann ticks all the boxes for the Left to focus their attention on.
To be fair, I think the right aren't exactly innocent in finding a hate figure on the other side of the spectrum - comparing Obama to Hitler and Lenin being a prime example.
 

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We're forgetting:
Tim Pawlenty (a forerunner)
Mitch Daniels (very interesting)
Chris Christie (" ")
Gary Johnson (an electable libertarian?)
Ron Paul (as always)
Scott Brown (albeit he'd never get it)


But Bachmann would essentially only get a Palin or a Huckabee nomination (at a stretch)
Yeah, I left Pawlenty out. He is a contender, sort of - but he had a chance to shine at McCain's convention but blew it with an uninspiring address. A semi-contender. Ron Paul is so hated by the neocons that he has not a chance. Brown has voted with the Dems so often that he is anathema. Barely heard of the others. The fact that that is a positive only shows has bad the field is. They are running out of time to accumulate finance and a national profile if they are serious.

There is no such thing as an electable libertarian. Anyone who courts the Republican core vote has to approve of foreign wars, torture and persecution of suspected "illegal aliens". You will get "glibertarians" who talk the talk, but they all kowtow in the end. It is called pandering.

If Bachman is a contender, then she and Palin will just cancel each other out. Palin and Bachmann on a "Mama Grizzly" ticket, anyone?
 

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It says a lot when out of all the candidates, to me the atheist, the fundamentalist preacher Huckabee seems to be the one who most closely resembles an actual real live person.

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