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Microsoft get a smack: €560 million fine over web browser


Sync

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Well they can't say they weren't warned now can they? After years of discussion, negotiation and findings against them, Microsoft finally agreed in 2010 to include a choice of web browsers on their system. This made the EU happy. They left Microsoft alone.

Then Windows 7 service pack 1 came out. And Microsoft didn't include those choices. They did however report compliance with the agreement, stating that they HAD been including them. Ooops. The results:

Microsoft has been fined 561 million euros ($731m; £484m) for failing to promote a range of web browsers, rather than just Internet Explorer, to users in the European Union (EU).
BBC News - Microsoft fined by European Commission over web browser

Almunia absolutely spanks them, giving them a half a billion fine. Good on them too, sends a nice clear message to others. Comply with your commitments or we'll fine the bejesus out of you.
 

feargach

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I'm guessing this was a deliberate decision by Microsoft top brass, to demonstrate their cojones and their contempt for Europe by openly, and willingly, losing money for no good reason, simply because they want to demonstrate they can.

If the shareholders revolt and remove the executives responsible for needlessly causing this loss, I will be very surprised.
 
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I thought the Americans stoped going after him for anti trust because he started giving away so much of his money, did the EU not get their cut?
 
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Boggle

I have a vague memory of microsoft getting fined before... Something to so with access to libraries for developers or something.

Anyone remember it or am I confusing it with something else?
 
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They'll be opening the petty cash box as we speak.
 

Aindriu

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A mere drop in the world's ocean for Microsoft. They won't get very rattled by it.
 

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This has probably been done on another thread, but can somebody provide a concise explanation of what Microsoft were originally doing wrong? Are they preventing people from switching browser? Or simply profiting from people not knowing how to change their default browser.
 

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It's a sign of the times for Microsoft. They are struggling to keep pace with Apple and Google. Windows phone is bombing. The Surface tablet is bombing. Windows 8 is bombing. In a world where tech is ever present, Msft hasn't innovated at the same pace as others. Firefox and Chrome have long been in wider use than IE. Msft, through their deployment in enterprise, have tried to force people into Explorer, rather than accommodate what people are using. They are holding on to MSOffice with a tightly clenched fist, instead of sprinkling some magic dust on it to allow people use it on iOS or Android. They have fast lessons to learn, or face going the way of RIM.
 
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Dylan2010

It's a sign of the times for Microsoft. They are struggling to keep pace with Apple and Google. Windows phone is bombing. The Surface tablet is bombing. Windows 8 is bombing. In a world where tech is ever present, Msft hasn't innovated at the same pace as others. Firefox and Chrome have long been in wider use than IE. Msft, through their deployment in enterprise, have tried to force people into Explorer, rather than accommodate what people are using. They are holding on to MSOffice with a tightly clenched fist, instead of sprinkling some magic dust on it to allow people use it on iOS or Android. They have fast lessons to learn, or face going the way of RIM.
but but Microsoft will a monopoly for the next 100 years. You have to laugh at statist clowns that regulate just at the point when the market is moving on
 

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and yet apple's domination and monopoly through the use of itunes and restriction of apps escapes the competition authority's attention why???????
 

zakalwe1

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good question zakalwe1, surely the fact that only apple software and apple approved apps can be loaded onto iphones and ipads together with the fact that apple take a percentage of all purchases made using iphones/ipads must be a source of concern to the EU??
 

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and yet apple's domination and monopoly through the use of itunes and restriction of apps escapes the competition authority's attention why???????
Because with 24% Smartphone market share Apple aren't in any way a monopoly?
 

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This has probably been done on another thread, but can somebody provide a concise explanation of what Microsoft were originally doing wrong? Are they preventing people from switching browser? Or simply profiting from people not knowing how to change their default browser.
That their market position covering 95+% of operating systems meant that they were a monopoly (not through their own fault) and that other software providers (Of office software, internet browsers etc) couldn't compete. So certain restrictions/requirements were put in place.
 

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It's a sign of the times for Microsoft. They are struggling to keep pace with Apple and Google. Windows phone is bombing. The Surface tablet is bombing. Windows 8 is bombing. In a world where tech is ever present, Msft hasn't innovated at the same pace as others. Firefox and Chrome have long been in wider use than IE. Msft, through their deployment in enterprise, have tried to force people into Explorer, rather than accommodate what people are using. They are holding on to MSOffice with a tightly clenched fist, instead of sprinkling some magic dust on it to allow people use it on iOS or Android. They have fast lessons to learn, or face going the way of RIM.
I believe blackberry is making a comeback with its latest offering...could be rumours of its demise are greatly exaggerated or could be dead cat bounce....not sure yet, but time will tell
 

zakalwe1

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Because with 24% Smartphone market share Apple aren't in any way a monopoly?
and by sueing all and sundry for patent infringement rather than refocussing on real innovation, its share will continue to fall.
 

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Well they can't say they weren't warned now can they? After years of discussion, negotiation and findings against them, Microsoft finally agreed in 2010 to include a choice of web browsers on their system. This made the EU happy. They left Microsoft alone.

Then Windows 7 service pack 1 came out. And Microsoft didn't include those choices. They did however report compliance with the agreement, stating that they HAD been including them. Ooops. The results:



BBC News - Microsoft fined by European Commission over web browser

Almunia absolutely spanks them, giving them a half a billion fine. Good on them too, sends a nice clear message to others. Comply with your commitments or we'll fine the bejesus out of you.
Peanuts to a company like this.

They could have fined them up to 10% of global turnover, up to 7.9 billion dollars.

Microsoft fined for breaking EU promise - RTÉ News
 

Astral Peaks

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Well they can't say they weren't warned now can they? After years of discussion, negotiation and findings against them, Microsoft finally agreed in 2010 to include a choice of web browsers on their system. This made the EU happy. They left Microsoft alone.

Then Windows 7 service pack 1 came out. And Microsoft didn't include those choices. They did however report compliance with the agreement, stating that they HAD been including them. Ooops. The results:



BBC News - Microsoft fined by European Commission over web browser

Almunia absolutely spanks them, giving them a half a billion fine. Good on them too, sends a nice clear message to others. Comply with your commitments or we'll fine the bejesus out of you.
Good enough for them, fine wasn't big enough.
 
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Dylan2010

and by sueing all and sundry for patent infringement rather than refocussing on real innovation, its share will continue to fall.
IT patent law is a joke, most firms have to spend fortunes on legals just so they can maintain a MAD stance with their competitors. let them hang by their own petard
 

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I believe blackberry is making a comeback with its latest offering...could be rumours of its demise are greatly exaggerated or could be dead cat bounce....not sure yet, but time will tell
Nah they're doomed: BlackBerry Z10 sales estimate slashed by 83% due to slow launch, upcoming competition - Yahoo! News

The big selling point of blackberries were their security. Now I can get an app on my smart phone that let's me access my work mails. As a device, it's main selling point is gone.
 

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