Middle-East terrorism and the Palestine Mandate

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The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was adopted as Resolution 181on 29 November 1947.
There was the small matter of the Arab-Israeli War between the two Resolutions.
The US Government didn't care about "the Jewish interest".
Really?

President Truman (31 August 1945) proposed the immediate admission into Palestine of 100,000 Jewish refugees. Previously (13 August 1945) the World Zionist congress was arguing for a million to be admitted. The Arab states (Egypt, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon) warned the US that the creation of a Jewish state would lead to war.

On 29 April 1946 an Anglo-American committee of inquiry advised against partition, and proposed instead local and provincial autonomies. This was rejected by Arab and Jewish interests alike.

The bombing of the King David Hotel accelerated the need for some solution, and there was a conference in London (September-December 1946) — boycotted by the Zionists — at which the Arabs argued for an Arab-dominated Palestinian state. Meanwhile, in Basel the Zionist congress wanted a Jewish state. Both Arabs and Jews wanted an end to the Mandate.

7 February 1947: the final British position was territorial division within a UN trusteeship. Again this was rejected by both Arabs and Jews. Hence the UK referred the Mandate back to the UN (7 Feb 1947) and the UN (29 Nov 1947) voted partition, with Jerusalem held as a UN trusteeship. This was accepted by the Jews, but rejected by the Arabs.

On 17 December 1947 the Arab League pledged to use force to prevent partition; and raids were begun on Jewish settlements. There's a listing of the engagements by both sides here.

The same day as the British withdrawal, David Ben-Gurion declared the provisional government of the state of Israel, with Chaim Weizmann as president. Both the US and the USSR immediately recognised the new creation.

Although the US would not supply arms to either side in the Arab-Israeli War of 1948, Georges Bidault had no such scruples: in January 1948 the French provided $26 million to arm Haganah. Quantities of arms from Czechoslovakia were flown to Palestine via the French mandate in Syria. That was financed on the back of US loans. (James Barr shows how France consistently subverted UK interests in the Middle East — and vice versa.)

To the last, the US agitated for the British not to abandon the Mandate. Ernie Bevin took General Marshall's concern to Cabinet (22 March 1948), but suggested the Americans had 'allowed US electoral needs to influence US foreign policy'.
 
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Really.
President Truman (31 August 1945) proposed the immediate admission into Palestine of 100,000 Jewish refugees.
President Truman didn't proposed the immediate admission into Palestine of 100,000 Jewish refugees in his letter on 31 August 1945. He did it later after the Garrison report (September 29, 1945), which described treatment of displaced Jews in the U. S. Zone
"As matters now stand, we appear to be treating the Jews as the Nazis treated them except that we do not exterminate them. They are in concentration camps in large numbers under our military guard instead of S.S. troops. One is led to wonder whether the German people, seeing this, are not supposing that we are following or at least condoning Nazi policy."

Eventually the request was never implemented.
That was financed on the back of US loans.
Source?
 

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President Truman didn't proposed the immediate admission into Palestine of 100,000 Jewish refugees in his letter on 31 August 1945. He did it later after the Garrison report (September 29, 1945), which described treatment of displaced Jews in the U. S. Zone.
Even earlier, mid-August, Truman had planted a question at a press conference. In reply he announced his intention:
to let as many Jews into Palestine as possible and still maintain civil peace.
That is in Michael Ottolenghi's essay, Harry Truman's Recognition of Israel, in International Affairs, vol 47, no. 4, for December 2004.

The texts of Truman's letters over the Harrison report, both dated 31 August 1945, are on line. Neither quotes an absolute number of refugees. To Attlee he writes:
It appears that the available certificates for immigration to Palestine will be exhausted in the near future. It is suggested that the granting of an additional one hundred thousand of such certificates would contribute greatly to a sound solution for the future of Jews still in Germany and Austria, and for other Jewish refugees who do not wish to remain where they are or who for understandable reasons do not desire to return to their countries of origin.
On the basis of this and other information which has come to me I concur in the belief that no other single matter is so important for those who have known the horrors of concentration camps for over a decade as is the future of immigration possibilities into Palestine. The number of such persons who wish immigration to Palestine or who would qualify for admission there is, unfortunately, no longer as large as it was before the Nazis began their extermination program. As I said to you in Potsdam, the American people, as a whole, firmly believe that immigration into Palestine should not be closed and that a reasonable number of Europe's persecuted Jews should, in accordance with their wishes, be permitted to resettle there.
My emphases. I infer:
  • the one hundred thousand is a staging arrangement: it was a number first conjured up by the Jewish Agency. James Barr (page 314) gives a basis for it: Out of an estimated quarter of a million displaced persons, about 138,000 were Jewish.
  • Truman is not limiting the Jewish DPs just to the US zone of occupation;
  • the bottom line has to be an unlimited number of DPs admitted to the Mandate.
To Eisenhower at SHAEF he writes:
I am communicating directly with the British Government in an effort to have the doors of Palestine opened to such of these displaced persons as wish to go there.
Both those letters were quickly made public, on 13 November 1945 and 29 September respectively, and should therefore be read as political policy more than anything more subtle. See also David McCullough, pages 600ff.

James Barr, again. He has gone through Ehud Avriel in Paris purchasing Czech materiél for Haganah, and continues (page 358):
Once purchased, the arms were flown from Czechoslovakia to Palestine via French territory, with the French government's approval [cited to Meir Zamir, Middle Eastern Studies, vol. 46, no. 1, Jan 2010, page 22]. The French also used borrowed American dollars to finance arms sales directly to the Zionists. In January 1948 George Bidault approved a $26 million deal to arm eight thousand Haganah soldiers.
Since 1946, Air France had been acquiring DC4 aircraft (the civilian application of the wartime C-54 Skymaster). A total coincidence, of course, but convenient.
 
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What is really strange is that a "western style democracy" is advocating and carrying out "Nazi plans for ethnic cleansing" as we speak. Look at how the Palestinians are being treated !
You mean being treated better than anywhere else in the Muslim world?
 

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You mean being treated better than anywhere else in the Muslim world?
One third of Palestinian kids in the so-called occupied territories have been crippled for life according to the World Health Organization through Zionist bullets deliberately designed to explode once they enter the body. Within the Green Line the a small majority of of indigenous population survives on charity from the rest of the region- granted their is massive food poverty among Jews as well the second most wealthy state in the Middle East- and you will not find a family who does not have a survivor of Shin Bet torture among them. Plus indigenous Palestinians within the Green Line have a housing problem that is totally insane because well they cannot build legally, it is very difficult for them to rent and of course the Zionist state never- apart from for the Druze at very rare times-builds anything for them. The over crowding within "Arab Citizens of Israel" districts has to be seen to be believed. Even the Druze who have had some housing built for them face problems. Nearly everyone is treated better in the Muslim world.
 

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I suppose you really believe that ? Does shutting out reality make it easier to persuade yourself that innocent civilians are not being killed, that young children are not being locked up and tortured for days on end and all the other inhuman practices that the warped and rotten minds of the IOF can think up.
It makes me sick .
...and that’s just Fatah, Hamas is much worse!
 

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You mean being treated better than anywhere else in the Muslim world?
Not even in Saudi Arabia which is fighting an insurgency do you have the brutal policies that the Zionist project has towards the indigenous population.
 

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...and that’s just Fatah, Hamas is much worse!
Hamas are a hell of a lot of authoritarian than Fatah- why do you think they are all over the place on so many issues?
 

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One third of Palestinian kids in the so-called occupied territories have been crippled for life according to the World Health Organization through Zionist bullets deliberately designed to explode once they enter the body. Within the Green Line the a small majority of of indigenous population survives on charity from the rest of the region- granted their is massive food poverty among Jews as well the second most wealthy state in the Middle East- and you will not find a family who does not have a survivor of Shin Bet torture among them. Plus indigenous Palestinians within the Green Line have a housing problem that is totally insane because well they cannot build legally, it is very difficult for them to rent and of course the Zionist state never- apart from for the Druze at very rare times-builds anything for them. The over crowding within "Arab Citizens of Israel" districts has to be seen to be believed. Even the Druze who have had some housing built for them face problems. Nearly everyone is treated better in the Muslim world.
Well, that's not true. The "palestinians" have one if the highest life expectancies in the ME, the lowest infant mortality rate and one of the highest literacy rates. This is because of the civilising influence of Israel. Israel is the first civilised state to exist in the region since the seventh century.
 

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...and that’s just Fatah, Hamas is much worse!
You understand what IOF is ?
Your post is nonsense.

When it comes down to it Fatah and Hamas have no real power. Israel decides who lives and dies'


Well, that's not true. The "palestinians" have one if the highest life expectancies in the ME, the lowest infant mortality rate and one of the highest literacy rates. This is because of the civilising influence of Israel. Israel is the first civilised state to exist in the region since the seventh century.
Well l'chaim That is a downright lie . Typical of you to make little of the damage the IOF is doing to Palestinian children with their high tech weaponry, demolition and theft of school buildings, solar panels etc donated by EU countries and sold by Israel.

You may think it smart to laugh at disabled and crippled children who were perfectly healthy until they were used as target practice by by IOF boys barely out of their teens who have been taught that these children are not human.

You have nothing to be proud of
 

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Well, that's not true. The "palestinians" have one if the highest life expectancies in the ME, the lowest infant mortality rate and one of the highest literacy rates. This is because of the civilising influence of Israel. Israel is the first civilised state to exist in the region since the seventh century.
LOL.....What hold the Jewish society together in Palestine is fear and hatred of the indigenous other and as soon as they are out of the picture as they will be tragically soon the place will explode. A civil war you will be clueless about and even a lot of Jewish Zionazis outside Palestine will be also which will mess up Western responses. The really bright Jews are getting out or have gotten out.
 

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I'm sorry to be the "pooper" in this little party here, but I notice no one yet has seen fit to mention that there was widespread abhorrence among Jews for Irgun's and Lehi's atrocities.

The same, no more or no less, than any other normal people with a deeply embedded moral code would have.

No mention for example the fact that the Zionist Jewish Agency publicly called the bombing of the King David hotel a "dastardly crime" committed by "a gang of desperados".

Or president Chaim Weizmann castigating American Zionists for advocating resistance in Tel Aviv "from the comfort and safety of New York", and condemning the Lehi assassination of Walter Guinness, 1st Baron Moyne, as "the greatest disaster to overtake us in the last few years", etc. etc.

Anyway I'll leave y'all to it now. :rolleyes:
 

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The same, no more or no less, than any other normal people with a deeply embedded moral code would have.
This belief of yours is the cause of all your personal pain and is at the core thing myth driving the situation to it's genocidal conclusion. You really believe it- however you would of course deny that to the martyr bombers of the so-called Second Intifida.
 

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Well, that's not true. The "palestinians" have one if the highest life expectancies in the ME, the lowest infant mortality rate and one of the highest literacy rates. This is because of the civilising influence of Israel. Israel is the first civilised state to exist in the region since the seventh century.
Why is life expectancy in Israel 10 years longer than in Palestine when they live in the same area: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
 

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Irgun massacred 250 Arab civilians at Deer Yassin (9 April 1948).
A bit of history for you Malcolm. Study this carefully (dar yassin included) and come back with some conclusions for us, will you, there's a good fellow. :rolleyes:

israel_massacres.jpg
 

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... that support, more so than any action by the British, created the Jewish state rather than any 'homeland' for Jews in Palestine...
Oh dear. Another very large gap in your "erudite" bombast. Maybe this short video will help you fill in those gaps. Put you on the right track. :rolleyes:

 

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A bit of history for you Malcolm. Study this carefully (dar yassin included) and come back with some conclusions for us, will you, there's a good fellow. :rolleyes:
One tenth of the male population of the male indigenous population was wiped out in 1936 primarily by British occupying force who Zionists later choose to murder for the reasons of "Jewish self-esteem". Jacobtinsky for all his faults attacked the likes of David Ben Gurion for lying to the indigenous population and the world about Zionist aims- however his aims were never the nightmare that is now, in fact if he was alive today he would be a Post-Zionist who would consider you scum.
 

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Speaking of Middle East terrorism

Israel Is the Only Country in the World Killing Iranians, Senior Israeli Minister Boasts
Israel 'strikes the Iranians hundreds of times in Syria, sometimes admits it and sometimes foreign reports reveal it,' Tzachi Hanegbi states

Haaretz and Reuters Jul 21, 2019 10:35 AM

Israeli Regional Cooperation Minister Tzachi Hanegbi said on Sunday morning that "Israel is the only country in the world that has been killing Iranians for two years now."

Speaking in an interview with Kan Bet radio about escalating tensions with Tehran, Hanegbi added that Israel "strikes the Iranians hundreds of times in Syria, sometimes admits it and sometimes foreign reports reveal it. Sometimes the chief of staff [reveals it], sometimes the outgoing air force chief [reveals it], but it's all coordinated policy."

Asked "what would happen should Israel get in trouble with Iran," in light of what the interviewer called "America's cautious response to the confrontation between Britain and Tehran against the backdrop of the alliance between the two countries," the minister said: "You can see that the Iranians are very limited in their responses, and it's not because they don't have abilities, it's because they understand that Israel means business."
Later Sunday, Iranian media responded to the reports on Hanegbi's statement, with Tehran's Press TV tweeting a quote of the Israeli minister and writing: "This is how Israelis are freely and proudly talking about killing Iranians! Just imagine what would happen if it was the other way around!"

Continued
Israel killing Iranians
 

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Oh dear. Another very large gap in your "erudite" bombast. Maybe this short video will help you fill in those gaps. Put you on the right track. :rolleyes:

Yet the UN also gave the right of return to those forced off their land. For you the right of return would be the death of Israel. Indigenous Palestinians form the majority of people still under the Zionist State.

 


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