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Mike Soden's lone parent remark sparks outrage-Irish Examiner.


powderfinger

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Scott Millar writes in the Irish Examiner today that former Bank Of Ireland Chief Executive,Mike Soden has refused to back down on remarks made concerning his views on lone parents.
The social commentary came from Soden's appearance as an expert panellist on Vincent Browne's TV3 programme on 16/09/09.

Addressing Rita Fagan,a fellow panellist,who was involved with the collapsed urban regeneration scheme at St.Michaels Estate(a failed ppp venture with Nama bound developer Bernard McNamara),Soden stated:

"I don't believe our society should carry the burden."
| Irish Examiner

Mr Soden made the remarks on TV3’s Tonight with Vincent Browne on Wednesday night while defending the Government’s NAMA plan to buy €54 billion of toxic loans from the banks. Speaking to the Irish Examiner yesterday Mr Soden said that if people choose the single parent family life they have to be responsible for themselves and not depend on the state. He added that he found it "aggravating" that single mothers who had "not just one, but two or three children" expected State support.

"If that offends people I’m sorry but I will not retract," the former bank chief said.


 
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Scott Millar writes in the Irish Examiner today that former Bank Of Ireland Chief Executive,Mike Soden has refused back down on remarks concerning his views on lone parents.
The social commentary came from Soden's appearance as an expert panellist on Vincent Browne's TV3 programme on 16/09/09.

Addressing Rita Fagan,a fellow panellist,who was involved with the collapsed urban regeneration scheme at St.Michaels Estate(a failed ppp venture with Nama bound developer Bernard McNamara),Soden stated:

| Irish Examiner



Soden's performance was really nauseating.
On a desperately hard day for all taxpayers and lower income people in particular he should have been humble.
He wasn't, he was arrogant smug, elitist and grinned for pretty much the whole programme.
His attitude towards Rita Fagan was far worse.
Insulting, superior and mocking.
She said late in the programme something like "I came on this programme to..."
and Soden uninvited (as if he was the host) says "and Rita we are delighted to have you on"
I nearly put my foot through the screen, it was one of the most blatantly condescending elitist remarks I have ever heard on TV.
But it spoke volumes for how Soden and the upper echelons of Irish business view themselves despite having crippled the country.

"You are scobie scum and you should kiss my feet for even being allowed sit beside me"
 

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Just as well someone is having kids. We need them to carry on paying the debts of Mr Soden and his friends in the banks. Seeing as though their kids, if they are chips off the old block, won't give a rashers about anyone else but themselves.

You'd think he'd be grateful for people who provide the debt-servicing slaves of the future.
 

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Mike Soden - the man behind the plan to merge AIB and BOI once upon a time causing the unemployment of 100's until he slipped himself up. Mr. Soden is a has been.
 

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I did not see the interview, but I do think Soden has a point about lone mothers, it is wrong for the state (taxpayers) to be expected to pay for their infidelity. The State needs to go after the fathers and make them pay for their kids.
 

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I did not see the interview, but I do think Soden has a point about lone mothers, it is wrong for the state (taxpayers) to be expected to pay for their infidelity. The State needs to go after the fathers and make them pay for their kids.
No problem with chasing the dads. What if they have no funds either?
Do we leave the kids starving?
Seems a bit cruel especially in a society where we think its okay to pay for the irresponsibility of bankers over property.
 

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I don't think we should have to bear the burdon of paying for Mike Soden's time in Mountjoy prison Theft and treason, but it's in society's best interest that he be locked away, just like it's in society's best interest that we support children from low income families so that they have chance to grow up and become healthy and productive members of society.
 

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I did not see the interview, but I do think Soden has a point about lone mothers, it is wrong for the state (taxpayers) to be expected to pay for their infidelity. The State needs to go after the fathers and make them pay for their kids.
Infidelity - the action or state of being unfaithful to a spouse or other sexual partner. Then they wouldn't be lone parents would they. Death to the infidel:eek:
 

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I did not see the interview, but I do think Soden has a point about lone mothers, it is wrong for the state (taxpayers) to be expected to pay for their infidelity. The State needs to go after the fathers and make them pay for their kids.
Agree.

One mistake is ok, everyone understands.

But if thick stupid women keep on having clutches of brats outside wedlock why should they be funded in their irresponsible behavior by the taxpaypayer.
 

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Agree.

One mistake is ok, everyone understands.

But if thick stupid women keep on having clutches of brats outside wedlock why should they be funded in their irresponsible behavior by the taxpaypayer.
Sweet jesus :roll:

Incidentally, where do you stand on abortion?
 

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Agree.

One mistake is ok, everyone understands.

But if thick stupid women keep on having clutches of brats outside wedlock why should they be funded in their irresponsible behavior by the taxpaypayer.
Are these 'stupid women' involved in virgin births or something? My God the ignorance of some people on these sites. As I have said previously the majority of long PARENTS (that is man or women) WORK. There are plenty of dole sponging married people with a pile of kids - look at the thread about the couple with 6 children receiving 3,600 a month.
 

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So you think its ok for the taxpayer to be mulcted by these people do you.
Lovely
 

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SO do you believe MEN have no responsibility ?
Apparently Soden believes that since his attack was directed at single mothers with the usual lifestyle choice rubbish.

Of course men have a responsibility, that is inherent, and should not even need to be mentioned.
 

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It's not them who are being funded, it's the children.

You assume the parents are irresponsible, and then say that the state shouldn't give them any money. So where does that leave the kids?

We need strong social services to protect children who are at risk of falling into a cycle of poverty. Where parents are not fulfilling their role properly, we need people who can identify the children in need and provide extra supports (in terms of education, nutrition, emotional supports)

What are your alternatives?
 

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You are making the assumption that lone parents don't work. You are incorrect - the majority of lone parents work.
You are not listening

I was referring to the silly feckless *************************es who insist on having 2,3 and more kids by different fathers and who are content to sponge off society and not work.
 
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Apparantly Soden believes that since his attack was directed at single mothers with the usual lifestyle choice rubbush.

Of course men have a responsibility, that is inherent, and should not even need to be mentioned.
He is correct as there are Women who make the lifestyle choice that to have a couple of kids with no spouse is great because it gets them a house and lots of cash and they offer nothing back to society but bludgeon the state at every opportunity demanding their rights YET have no concept or idea of their responsibiities.
 

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Agree.

One mistake is ok, everyone understands.

But if thick stupid women keep on having clutches of brats outside wedlock why should they be funded in their irresponsible behavior by the taxpaypayer.
Its not their irresponsible behaviour that is being funded. The funding is for the children.

Want to apply the same rules to the bankers?
 

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He is correct as there are Women who make the lifestyle choice that to have a couple of kids with no spouse is great because it gets them a house and lots of cash and they offer nothing back to society but bludgeon the state at every opportunity demanding their rights YET have no concept or idea of their responsibiities.
Can you please name me anyone in Ireland who has a good clear concept and idea of their responsibilities as citizens?

Politicians?
Bankers?
 

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